This recent ruling makes sense, since working in a hospital puts medical workers in close proximity to patients. And that working in a hospital is optional, just like military service.
Compared to the early 20th century, a mandatory vaccination outside of military service, employment in a hospital would not be very effective. Even when states mandated masks, I've seen so many instances of noncompliance to where I believe so many of the deaths and hospitalizations could've been prevented. It certainly wasn't a libertine/anything goes society as it is in the present. I could see in our present culture, this getting very ugly, and many refusing nonetheless. I don't place a huge premium on the practices of the 19th and early 20th centuries, mainly because it included many ugly aspects of history that unduly deprived individuals of their liberties in other, more legit aspects. I also think that too many people have used the "rights aren't absolute" schtick as a way of trying to unduly restrict other rights, such as firearms, and speech that offends the sensibilities of another. I am pro-vax, but at this point, I'm like if you don't want to get vaxxed, that is your choice. But it will be us vaccinated folks that will enjoy the privileges of participating in society, and not the unvaxxed. I don't want to give any more ammunition to Tucker Carlson and Alex Berenson, after they hysterically claimed in a factually challenged manner, that the needle police are going to bang your door down and jab you.
I think the best way to go about this, is the carrot and stick approach. The government should offer a vaccine passport of some kind for a fee, where businesses such as airlines, and major shopping establishments can have a reliable way of requiring their customers to be vaxxed. There can be tax breaks given for businesses who enact these pro-vax rules. And I think that state and federal entitlements, including health care and other entitlements, can be tied to one's vaccination status. If they want to continue receiving government benefits, then they need to get vaccinated. Some common sense measures can be taken by states to ensure public accommodations require that patrons be vaxxed. That way, those of us who are vaxxed can enjoy life, and those that don't will find their lives made more difficult.
In the case of Indiana University, no one is forced to be a professor or student there. If they don't like the policies there, they can always leave. Many state buildings have rules where you can't smoke a cigarette, among other rules. So I get that part. I'm just not willing to go as far as forcing the needle on a person who chooses willingly to stay home and not go into public establishments, or anyone else who refuses vaccinations. And that no matter what happens regarding the percentage of the population being vaxxed. But I am for the carrot and stick approach, as there is nothing better to incentivize good behavior and disincentivize bad behavior, but impacting the pocketbooks of those won't do the right thing.
This recent ruling makes sense, since working in a hospital puts medical workers in close proximity to patients. And that working in a hospital is optional, just like military service.
Compared to the early 20th century, a mandatory vaccination outside of military service, employment in a hospital would not be very effective. Even when states mandated masks, I've seen so many instances of noncompliance to where I believe so many of the deaths and hospitalizations could've been prevented. It certainly wasn't a libertine/anything goes society as it is in the present. I could see in our present culture, this getting very ugly, and many refusing nonetheless. I don't place a huge premium on the practices of the 19th and early 20th centuries, mainly because it included many ugly aspects of history that unduly deprived individuals of their liberties in other, more legit aspects. I also think that too many people have used the "rights aren't absolute" schtick as a way of trying to unduly restrict other rights, such as firearms, and speech that offends the sensibilities of another. I am pro-vax, but at this point, I'm like if you don't want to get vaxxed, that is your choice. But it will be us vaccinated folks that will enjoy the privileges of participating in society, and not the unvaxxed. I don't want to give any more ammunition to Tucker Carlson and Alex Berenson, after they hysterically claimed in a factually challenged manner, that the needle police are going to bang your door down and jab you.
I think the best way to go about this, is the carrot and stick approach. The government should offer a vaccine passport of some kind for a fee, where businesses such as airlines, and major shopping establishments can have a reliable way of requiring their customers to be vaxxed. There can be tax breaks given for businesses who enact these pro-vax rules. And I think that state and federal entitlements, including health care and other entitlements, can be tied to one's vaccination status. If they want to continue receiving government benefits, then they need to get vaccinated. Some common sense measures can be taken by states to ensure public accommodations require that patrons be vaxxed. That way, those of us who are vaxxed can enjoy life, and those that don't will find their lives made more difficult.
In the case of Indiana University, no one is forced to be a professor or student there. If they don't like the policies there, they can always leave. Many state buildings have rules where you can't smoke a cigarette, among other rules. So I get that part. I'm just not willing to go as far as forcing the needle on a person who chooses willingly to stay home and not go into public establishments, or anyone else who refuses vaccinations. And that no matter what happens regarding the percentage of the population being vaxxed. But I am for the carrot and stick approach, as there is nothing better to incentivize good behavior and disincentivize bad behavior, but impacting the pocketbooks of those won't do the right thing.
Most states have at-will employment laws, with only the following not at all:
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Maine
Nebraska
New York
Rhode Island
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/at-will-employment-states