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Chris J. Karr's avatar

"So many people have been consumed by Powell’s lies, including good men like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. His staff went for the shiny things, swallowed the hook of standing up to Trump, and realized that the Washington Post is not your friend when there’s an (R) after your name."

I'm having a hard time following the logic here - what evidence was there that Raggensperger bought into Powell's Kraken? From his actions in early January - when the Trump call leaked - he was pushing back against Powell's lies in his call with the President.

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Steve Berman's avatar

Sorry I should have been more clear. Raffensperger definitely didn’t fall for Powell’s lies, but they so damaged the GA GOP because others believed it that Raffs is now political plutonium. His staff mishandled the public and the party and put its faith in the Washington Post. WaPo is no friend of any Republican.

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Chris J. Karr's avatar

Got it - thanks for the clarification.

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

I don't agree with everything you said but you said it well. I believe more emphasis should be placed on making it harder to cheat than easier to vote. Every illegal vote allows a lazy criminal to steal a vote from someone who makes an effort to get to the poll. Of course, if you don't believe there is cheating, it's a moot point to you.

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SGman's avatar

Assign every voter a PIN, put a scantron-type field on the envelope to be completed by the voter, mail out ballots: now it's both easy AND hard to cheat.

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Steve Berman's avatar

Who assigns the pins? Who manages the voter list? Who ensures the mailed ballots are not forwarded out of state? The voter list is a sacred document but Democrats want to throw it out and let anyone who shows up or mails a ballot vote. Going with a pin just moves the goalpost from voter ID to “who gets a pin and how do we validate them as a voter?”

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Good questions. I appreciate any efforts to improve the system. My preference would be no mail-in ballots except for military, infirmity and necessary travel away from home and then only with strict security. Early voting should be limited to nine consecutive days including two weekends.

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SGman's avatar

If mail ballots are secure form the above, why not for everyone?

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Mail is always less secure. Mail-in votes can always be sold for a higher price than a promise.

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SGman's avatar

Yeah, I'm not gonna worry about that if there's a PIN/sufficient security unless there are some real numbers to give cause for concern.

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SGman's avatar

Doesn't really matter to me: the PIN can be created by the voter during registration (which is also where identity is confirmed), or a unique PIN can be assigned/mailed after registration. It's simply better than a signature: it's not susceptible to changes in writing/signing performance and it's ostensibly secure.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are already rules on the books in most/all about absentee/mailed ballots and when those can be sent out of state, and being registered in more than one state. I'm really not concerned about it, at least until there is evidence that it is a significant issue.

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Sounds like an improvement.

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SGman's avatar

Sure better than signature matching

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SGman's avatar

Easy to vote, that is.

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