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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Grim. No real solutions except to try to outlast the evil doers. The Iran nuclear threat can be taken out of the equation even if it has to be done every few years.

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Steve Berman's avatar

The Israelis along with the U.S. have been doing that for decades. Remember STUXNET?

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Cameron Sprow's avatar

If you have cancer that is discovered in your body, you have it surgically removed or lasered out or chemically blasted, but you get it out of there, ALL of it, or it tends to return, most times tenfold more than at first. Such is the case with Israel and their problem with Hamas and the Palestinians, who, by the way, don't belong there. They belong in the country of Jordan. Over the years, Israel has allowed Hamas to hang around, them and the so-called "Palestinian Authority," much to their detriment. The cancer needs to be cut out, once and for all. I support Israel in this endeavor.

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Steve Berman's avatar

Whether you meant it this way or not, you’re advocating for genocide. The genie of Palestinians is out of the bottle. Most Gazans were born in Gaza. You can’t call them displaced refugees from elsewhere. That’s part of the problem by the way. You can’t remove them en masse unless they want to go. You can’t put the genie back in.

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Cameron Sprow's avatar

Hamas and the Palestinian authority, led by one Mahmoud Abbas has advocated for genocide of Israel for 50+ years, so much so that it is in their charter. "Wipe Israel from the map," and, in fact, the country of Israel does not appear on their maps. It would seem that this is a kill or be killed situation, especially in light of Oct. 7th.Israel cannot afford too many more of those kinds of losses, or it will be curtains for them as a nation. I support Israel, full stop.

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SGman's avatar

True for Hamas, not true for the PA. The PA isn't great by any means, but at least be factual.

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Cameron Sprow's avatar

I am

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SGman's avatar

No, you're not.

One thing that's missing from the article in general is the protests against Hamas in Gaza. The problem is that there's little/no chance of them having an uprising.

If Israel really wanted to do so, they could have made agreement with Saudi Arabia and other Arab states to have them remove Hamas and stand up a real state of Palestine - but because Israel is in the control of a bunch of Jewish supremacists that want to annex all of that land they did not do so. They want to take Gaza and the West Bank, and that will further alienate Israel.

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Cameron Sprow's avatar

Under the Oslo accords, Arafat and Rabin had that provision removed. But what has happened since then? In 2006 the Palestinian people ELECTED Hamas as their leaders and to be governed by them. The PA since is all but irrelevant. One would think that if that were a big factor in the differences between them, that a faction of Palestinians would have broken off from Hamas, yes?

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