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SGman's avatar

Rather than embrace that people don't want to ban abortion - expect the "pro-life" (quotes because many do not care about said lives after birth) group to move against democracy itself. Rick Santorum just voiced this last night, and other pro-life voices are making similar statements.

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Steve Berman's avatar

And this is why Ohio happened. And will continue to happen.

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Vicki C.'s avatar

I was a sophomore in high school when the supreme count legalized abortion (1973). Title IX was enacted in 1972. These were both monumental events in their day and helped shape my life long strong support of women’s rights. The problem I have with Ohio’s Issue 1 is what the bill did not say, such as not specifically including parental or guardian consent. Words matter and in Ohio’s case the wording of the amendment is very broad, subjective, and vague. Because of these ambiguities I was really hoping the issue would fail so that the proponents would have to try again with more specific language. As it is written now, I think it will only be a matter of time before these uncertainties end up being decided by the state Supreme Court. My overall view is that it was poorly done.

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Salted Grits's avatar

I'm curious about your experience with women who have chosen abortion that leads you to conclude they experience profound and long-lasting effect. I've no doubt that may be true for some women, especially if they were hypersensitive types raised in the fundamentalist evangelical faith which makes a "big issue out of a piece of tissue" in the emphasis of its purity culture which results in some women wrapping up their selfworth and value as a prospective wife in their virginity. The guilt and shame they carry...THAT is what results in the profound and long lasting effect to which you refer. However, most women who obtain abortions are not plagued with a negative prolonged and long lasting effect. They are most likely plagued with the prolonged and long lasting effect of pursuing their goals and obtaining a life that for many would have been unattainable had they not terminated their pregnancy. It is interesting the differences in how Christianity and Judaism view when life begins.

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Steve Berman's avatar

I cannot reasonably answer the question without taking on a religious tone. I can say that there are many examples of women who had abortions who were not raised in evangelical families but have expressed sadness, and even long term regret. I don’t know how many opposite examples there are of mothers who wish they aborted their living children. I hope, very few.

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JRP001's avatar

Wait... are you implying that women who do not have abortions do not experience sadness or long term regret regarding their family planning choices?

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Steve Berman's avatar

Are you implying there are children in the world whose mothers regret not aborting them? I am glad I am not one of them.

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Special interest groups will continue to elect Presidents and Senators. Maybe the nation would become more governable if Republicans could face reality about the abortion question. No exception for rape, incest and health of the mother is a loser. I'm not medically trained, but it seems logical that, at some point, aborting a healthy fetus, so close to life, not covered by one of the exceptions, is not a good idea.

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