You must not be old enough to remember washing machine wringers. Here's a link showing a motorized model. I even remember the hand-cranked versions. I was surprised they are still made but not attached to washing machines.
Whatever the cause of any delay, Trump and Musk got the astronauts home within 3 months and Biden and Boeing did not get them home over a period of 9 months. And the "perfectly safe" argument does not fly either, because no one believes that the two crew members would not be happier at home on earth as was originally planned. Were they aware that their return. might be delayed when they were chosen for the flight? YES. Did they know this was the first manned flight of the Boeing craft? YES.Was the decision by either Biden or Trump not to trust a vehicle that had had some "small" problems in the past? Probably, and also probably as much for reasons of national pride as for the reflection on a given Presidency, should another glitch occur. In the end, the political decision to let a flawed new craft take the crew up to the station was the cause of the extended stay.
Did you actually understand what I said? Bottom line: the Biden administration let a new vehicle that had not had one flawless flight, carry two live people on a dangerous journey, the first time, and did not repeat that mistake, using the brand new Musk vehicle that also had not had a flawless test. One mistake got them stranded, a second more cautious decision, kept them up there.And ,yes, Trump made the same cautious decision, probably for the same reason, US prestige.
Yes, I did - and let's be clear that that was NASA that cleared a crewed flight for the Boeing capsule after many delays.
Your statement is that Trump/Musk got them home in 3 months while Biden didn't - but that was already scheduled to bring them home. Their being happier at home is irrelevant to the point that rather than have to either plan a new mission or risk their lives, they shifted schedules around and went for the safest plan to do so.
So again, I ask: did you really ignore what was stated in the article?
So NASA made a bad decision under the influence of political thinking. Do you like that better? Bottom line again: Biden administration made one bad decision and one safe decision. Trump made one safe decision. I do not see where there is any condemnation of the Biden administration for evil intent in that simple statement that should get you all worked up.
You're drawing a direct comparison between Biden and Trump, with the implication that Trump did something that Biden didn't - when the reality is that Trump didn't do anything in reality and their return was already scheduled.
I won’t say it’s beyond the pale that the Biden administration made some political inputs to keep SpaceX from scoring points for Trump before the election. But I don’t think NASA used any political calculation in deciding on astronaut safety. I don’t think it was a bad decision, risk wise, to leave the astronauts on station as part of Crew-9, versus rushing an emergency mission with a SpaceX Crew Dragon to get them home.
They’ve been planning to decommission the space station for years. The last I heard the Russian module is leaking oxygen so much that they keep having to push it back up in orbit because it’s sinking. I also heard the suits they use to make space walks are vintage space shuttle models. The space station has been in space since 1998. SpaceX started transporting cruise four or five years ago. It’s been hauling cargo up there and garbage back since 2012.
You must not be old enough to remember washing machine wringers. Here's a link showing a motorized model. I even remember the hand-cranked versions. I was surprised they are still made but not attached to washing machines.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5b/b7/37/5bb737cb71d8cccd594caa578f7a3a9c--washing-machines-washers.jpg
Curtis you lost me on that one.
Sorry, Steve. I was also momentarily lost when I read "ringer" in this paragraph.
" It’s certainly embarrassing for a company that’s been through the ringer with the 737-MAX and other aircraft failures,"
Ahh, I missed the “w” I get it now.
Whatever the cause of any delay, Trump and Musk got the astronauts home within 3 months and Biden and Boeing did not get them home over a period of 9 months. And the "perfectly safe" argument does not fly either, because no one believes that the two crew members would not be happier at home on earth as was originally planned. Were they aware that their return. might be delayed when they were chosen for the flight? YES. Did they know this was the first manned flight of the Boeing craft? YES.Was the decision by either Biden or Trump not to trust a vehicle that had had some "small" problems in the past? Probably, and also probably as much for reasons of national pride as for the reflection on a given Presidency, should another glitch occur. In the end, the political decision to let a flawed new craft take the crew up to the station was the cause of the extended stay.
Did you really just ignore the entire article and facts presented therein?
Did you actually understand what I said? Bottom line: the Biden administration let a new vehicle that had not had one flawless flight, carry two live people on a dangerous journey, the first time, and did not repeat that mistake, using the brand new Musk vehicle that also had not had a flawless test. One mistake got them stranded, a second more cautious decision, kept them up there.And ,yes, Trump made the same cautious decision, probably for the same reason, US prestige.
Yes, I did - and let's be clear that that was NASA that cleared a crewed flight for the Boeing capsule after many delays.
Your statement is that Trump/Musk got them home in 3 months while Biden didn't - but that was already scheduled to bring them home. Their being happier at home is irrelevant to the point that rather than have to either plan a new mission or risk their lives, they shifted schedules around and went for the safest plan to do so.
So again, I ask: did you really ignore what was stated in the article?
So NASA made a bad decision under the influence of political thinking. Do you like that better? Bottom line again: Biden administration made one bad decision and one safe decision. Trump made one safe decision. I do not see where there is any condemnation of the Biden administration for evil intent in that simple statement that should get you all worked up.
You're drawing a direct comparison between Biden and Trump, with the implication that Trump did something that Biden didn't - when the reality is that Trump didn't do anything in reality and their return was already scheduled.
I won’t say it’s beyond the pale that the Biden administration made some political inputs to keep SpaceX from scoring points for Trump before the election. But I don’t think NASA used any political calculation in deciding on astronaut safety. I don’t think it was a bad decision, risk wise, to leave the astronauts on station as part of Crew-9, versus rushing an emergency mission with a SpaceX Crew Dragon to get them home.
They’ve been planning to decommission the space station for years. The last I heard the Russian module is leaking oxygen so much that they keep having to push it back up in orbit because it’s sinking. I also heard the suits they use to make space walks are vintage space shuttle models. The space station has been in space since 1998. SpaceX started transporting cruise four or five years ago. It’s been hauling cargo up there and garbage back since 2012.