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Steve Berman's avatar

Prediction (don't hold me to it, more like a prophecy): Democrats will not exploit the Iran war as a campaign issue. There's too much tied up in their own power structures about Israel and the anti-semitic wing of their party. They might go in on economics, but expect the "class warfare" and "trillionaires!" line to lead. That is the worst issue to lead with, btw. Republicans may overperform against expectations, because Democrats are a maze with no path through.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

Democrats have an easy lay up if they are smart about campaigning on the corruption issue. I also think that they have an excellent wedge issue with Trump's failure here to show the America First base that Trump's no less a "cosmopolitan globalist" than those he ran against - he just serves a different set of international masters.

SGman's avatar

This new deal is nowehere close to the JCPOA - 'cause the JCPOA included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States along with the EU. This one won't.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

How did those others make the deal more effective? What did they contribute?

SGman's avatar

Sanctions, helping enforce the IAEA inspections, etc...

But sure, let's just keep trying to go it alone - it's worked so well under Trump, hasn't it?

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Did those sanctions work? Did IAEA have unfettered access? Did Russia suffer from sanctioning Iranian oil?

SGman's avatar

Yes, yes, and why would Russia suffering have anything to do with the JCPOA?

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Sanctions did not work. Iran continued enrichment and IAEA had incomplete access. https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-iaea-uranium-enrichment-suspend-ccf574a324504b985f4b158f9d3d6941

My point about Russia joining in the agreement is that they profited from it.

SGman's avatar

The JCPOA was ended in 2018 by Trump: of course they haven't been able to since then, especially not during this war.

blox.'s avatar

I have no love for Trump, but I really wanted Iran to be successful: delete the mullahs, secure the Strait, stabilize the region, reestablish the American security umbrella, build productive economic relationships with GCC countries, weaken China...

Success would have bought America many years to navigate the looming balance of payments crisis at Treasury. Decades, perhaps. A true geopolitical master stroke.

Instead, this may be America’s Suez moment, from which the empire will never recover.

Bill Pearson's avatar

David, David, David, you are way too focused on a little thing like a war half-way around the world. The war will be over and the billions cost and lost will be yesterday's news. The lives lost will be tragic, but we all know war is hell.

For the MAGA faithful, their focus will be closer to home. Just look at the majesty of the circus held last weekend on the White House lawn. Beautiful, bountiful and the schemers behind it all made a boatload of money. Promoting trump-invested corporations is the new normal and what better way to do it by masking it behind patriotism and using our house to do it.

But wait, there's more, the next great bash, a trump rally is coming on July 4. How cool is that; featuring the man, the myth the legend djt himself. It's great to see at least one poster below still believes in the Art of the Deal and the brilliance he has just accomplished. How can anyone doubt trump, he told us all; "greatest deal ever."

Sorry for my sarcasm brother, but the maga faithful will never come to grips with the scam. January 6 should have been the deal breaker for 95% of this country. Clearly it wasn't, as they see the withering decrepit old man as their savior.

Peace out gang, at least that's something.

SGman's avatar

Official text confirmed by US officials during read-out today matches what was reported: it's heinous.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/17/middleeast/us-iran-war-mou-text-intl

Kern's avatar

Do you plan to write a major revision to this column once you read and understand the actual deal when it is finally released? What JD Vance stated about the deal yesterday several times on Fox News is significantly different than your TDS musings presented here.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

Not all of us are glued to the dishonest FOX News all the time peddling assertions from admitted liar JD Vance.

What did America's weirdest Vice President say that contradicts what David's written above?

Pretend that each of the assertions David made above is a Kalshi bet and you are willing to take the other side of the wager. Will Israeli troops leave Lebanon? Will Iran NOT be extracting new rents from the Strait of Hormuz? Will the US NOT be sending financial sweetners to the IRGC? Will Iran cease its nuclear program?

It's pretty cowardly to accuse someone of being wrong without the courage to say WHAT specifically they're wrong about. (It's also VERY lazy.) Be brave and industrious and tell us what David is getting wrong. Bonus points if you tell us how YOU will write a major revision to this comment, should David's account prove more accurate than America's favorite hillbilly cosplayer.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

And now it looks like EVEN AT FOX, the knives are out for Vance.

https://bsky.app/profile/lispower.bsky.social/post/3moiehicmvu2u

Kern's avatar

Vance repeated the same points that Trump made in Europe earlier in the day at the G7 Summit. Learn to read Chris. I merely stated that the deal had not been released.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

You wrote above that J.D. Vance made some statements yesterday that conflicted with David's post. WHAT were those things?

There's no need to play coy, unless you're afraid to defend the post you originally made.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood."

- Ralph Waldo Emerson

SGman's avatar

Oh look, Trump today on enriching uranium:"It's a little hard when other people have it, other adjoining states have it, and you're not letting them have it for purposes of electricity and things like that. You have to use a little common sense."

And on their ballistic missiles: "They hurt a little location but they dont blow up the planet"

Chris J. Karr's avatar

Now I understand why the USFL failed.

They couldn't stop Trump from continuously moving the goalposts.

SGman's avatar

And: "I'm saying that if other countries have them, it's a little unfair for them not to have some"

David Thornton's avatar

If what I wrote proves wrong. I wouldn’t take anything JD said to the bank.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

I think what you wrote discounts any ability or desire for Trump to follow up on his enforcement threats. Frequent doses of destruction will sooner or later get Iran's attention. Of course, there's always the potential for a future toothless democrat administration allowing another North Korea type evolution to consider.

SGman's avatar

Iran already knows they can get Trump to fold just by closing the Strait again. He's shown just how impotent he really is.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

And they also know he can shut down all of Iran if they persist.

SGman's avatar

Yeah, no one believes that at this point.

They know they can make him hurt more.