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"Many in the media expect news consumers to believe that normal people with jobs and lives just put down everything to stand in unity against President Trump’s immigration enforcement policy. Or just against Trump."

Around eight friends and I will be doing exactly this on Saturday. It'll be my fourth protest this year, and likely not my last one. Before this administration and its assault on my values and livelihood, I'd marched in exactly ONE protest before, and that was when it looked like Trump was looking to fire Robert Mueller.

I'm looking forward to joining thousands of other Chicagoans at Daley Plaza downtown for the No Kings protest, and I'll be waving my American flag (with the Rebel Alliance starbird logo on it) to show that there are plenty of regular Americans who have no interest in Trump's participation trophy parade. And if any of Trump's thugs decide to play stormtrooper, I'll have a Bluetooth speaker with me with the Imperial March queued up. (Given that most Americans skipped out on Schoolhouse Rock, I'm hoping that some Star Wars symbolism gets through.)

"In fact, Newsom will sue to keep Trump from doing what presidents have the legal right to do, which is protect federal personnel and assets using federal troops."

As Curtis and I have hashed out in the comments in previous posts, Trump DOES NOT have the legal right to federalize the California National Guard under the authority they cite[1] (read it - it's not difficult legal English), but he DOES have the authority under the Insurrection Act, if (and only if) he makes the relevant proclamation instructing the "insurgents" to go home, and giving notice to Congress[2] (read it - also not difficult legal English).

"It’s the lash that hurts. In ICE’s case, the lash is mostly, really overwhelmingly, against people who should not be in the United States..."

Like the soccer mom in Missouri that ICE arrested (and backtracked on)[3], an Iraq war veteran[4], a British tourist[5], or that high school band member[6]?

"There is no way to clean up our illegal immigration problem without conducting job site raids in California."

Sure there is - mandatory eVerify. Instead of arresting the worker ants who come here looking for a better life for their family, arrest the queen bees who hire and take advantage of undocumented labor. Arrest Americans who are breaking the law to save on labor costs, and a lot of this problem goes away as the supply of jobs for folks who aren't documented vanishes.

"The number of protesters is not thousands, it’s a few hundred."

I'm not going to speak for LA, but expect thousands in Chicago this weekend. You don't fill the streets from Washington and La Salle over down to Jackson Boulevard, over to State Street, back up to Washington Street, back to Daley Plaza with a mere hundreds of people. This was during the FIRST protest of the season, where tons of regular people - not agitators - flooded in to be seen. Given that Trump is moving hard against Chicago and the surrounding area, expect a much larger turnout.

"I also believe that the Border Patrol and ICE in general are professionals at their jobs, with Tom Homan an expert in how to conduct mass deportation."

It's hard to act professionally when you have Stephen Miller yelling at you and your bosses to raid Home Depots and 7-Elevens to meet a bogus quota[7].

"And it’s very convenient to blame the abuses for the backlash, because the lash hurts when the protesters who show up in L.A. aren’t protesting abuses, they are protesting any immigration enforcement at all. It’s the lash that stings."

Not speaking for LA, but here in Chicago, we'll be protesting the stupidity and cruelty of it all. Hell, there's a large contingent of us who wouldn't mind the administration FOLLOWING THE LAW and deporting violent criminals after they have been found guilty. However, we're stuck with the One Weird Trick Administration who thinks that loopholes they have misinterpreted into existence (like the one Trump used to federalize the CA Guard or outright ignoring the 30-day notice requirement for final removal) gives them a shortcut not only for the laws of this country, but the values that underpin all of this avoidable nonsense.

"Open borders, unlimited immigration, voting rights for non-citizens, and generally policies that hand power to progressive liberals are causes that progressive liberals will fund and tolerate (if not encourage) violent mobs."

Progressives and liberals are NOT the issue here. Remember back to early 2024 when Democrats advanced the James Lankford bill to give Republicans what they wanted on immigration in exchange for funding for Ukraine.[8] What happened? Trump had his minions torpedo it, so that he could run the next year on Biden being weak on the border. Omitting that important context from these accounts is just cherry picking and being disingenuous. We could be dealing with immigration issues as adults in this country, but Trump and his enablers (and apologists) decided that unleashing this chaos was preferable.

"We don’t see the factories and warehouses who employ thousands of illegal immigrants using faked paperwork. We see how the owners of those places squeal like stuck pigs that they might have other pay California’s $15 minimum wage and that would put them out of business."

This is intentional. The day worker at Home Depot or the guy working the factory floor is never going to be able to contribute to Trump's campaign or buy their way into a cryptocoin dinner to get Trump to instruct his goons to look the other way. The guy running the factory is another story. If ICE went after these crooked employers with the same gusto and highlighted how they were taking advantage of undocumented workers, a lot of this problem would vanish overnight. That's a pretty good tell that this isn't about actually solving ANYTHING with respect to illegal immigration, but merely serving as a useful pretext to push and expand the boundaries of Trump's power.

"We only see the optics we’re shown..."

Like Kristi Noem's taxpayer-funded ads?[9]

There's a propaganda war being waged, and it's not just "The Media" fighting it, so let's not pretend otherwise.

"They want us to believe that the same ICE agents who worked under the previous administration somehow became Nazis overnight, or they were crypto-Nazis before."

There's a saying that "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck". If ICE doesn't want to be seen in the same light as the stormtroopers on Ghorman, there's a pretty simple solution - quit acting like them. "I was just following orders" is NOT a valid defense. If Stephen Miller's going after people he sees as subhumans, because he feels slighted for having to attend public school as a youth[10] (and more recently cuckolded by Elon Musk), the proper response from ICE agents isn't "Yes sir, right away", it's "these orders are counterproductive, cruel, and stupid, and I won't carry them out".

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406

[2] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/254

[3] https://www.livenowfox.com/news/carol-hui-mayorga-released-ice-kennett-missouri

[4] https://www.abc15.com/news/region-west-valley/laveen/wife-of-iraq-veteran-detained-by-ice-says-husband-was-told-he-would-not-be-deported

[5] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/10/british-tourist-detained-us-authorities-10-days-visa-issue

[6] https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/massachusetts-maura-healey-demands-answers-milford-student-arrested-by-ice/

[7] https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/stephen-miller-demanded-ice-target-home-depots

[8] https://www.lankford.senate.gov/news/press-releases/lankford-releases-border-security-package-with-huge-wins-for-securing-the-border/

[9] https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-kristi-noem-200-million-dhs-ad-campaign-thanks-president-1235276324/

[10] https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/stephen-miller-hatemonger-biography/

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I am an average citizen who has attended several protests against the cruelty and lawlessness of the Trump administration beginning with the Wonen’s March in 2017. I have never been paid for my attendance.

If, has you state, the protestors in LA number in the hundreds, why is there a need for the National Guard or the Marines?

It is a myth that undocumented immigrants are dangerous. Most are people who have come here for a better life and to escape untenable situations. Workplace raids will not solve the problem. The problem will only be solved by reform that recognizes the reality that America depends on undocumented immigrant labor and the contributions undocumented immigrants make to our economy.

The difference in ICE’s actions now and in prior administrations is the lack of regard for due process. They are picking up people at court houses after they have attended mandatory check ins using a cruel twist of the law: DHS attorneys are asking for their cases to be dismissed so they are then subject to expedited removal.

The disregard for due process means that people are being detained even when they are on a path to citizenship or have pending asylum cases.

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