I know of no boxes of ballots (completed, valid ballots) in trunks of cars. Georgia’s election systems are as secure as anything I’ve seen. They are more complex than needed. I don’t see how mass cheating is remotely possible. Not now, not in 2020.
Mass cheating is not likely. Stealing an election is possible but only when the margins are razor thin (like Florida in 2000 - about 4 or 5 votes per county). Recounts are useless once the ballots are counted. All of the controls must be in the registration process and positive ID of voters. I'm not sure how that is assured when a large percentage of the votes are mailed in or placed in unattended drop boxes.
My reasoning goes back to razor thin margins. I believe the ballot counting process is generally very accurate. Recounts almost always verify the original total has little or no error. Most precincts have observers and good controls. I sometimes question how many of the ballots are valid, but it seldom matters unless the election is very close. In the case of mail in or drop box ballots, there will always be a question as to whether they are valid but once they are separated from the envelopes, there is no way to determine validity.
Regarding registration: "The federal Help America Vote Act (2002) requires that individuals in all 50 states who register to vote by mail and who have not voted previously in a federal election in their state must provide either their driver's license or a paycheck, bank statement, current utility bill, or government document showing their name and address. Individuals voting by mail must include a copy of one of those documents with their absentee/mail-in ballot.
These requirements do not apply if an individual submitted a copy of their identification, their driver's license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number when registering to vote."
Mail-in ballots typically use signature matching on the return envelope containing the ballot to verify that the returned ballot is valid. We could enhance those with a voter-set PIN - as signatures do change over time - but: it's not like a drop-box is just a random ballot - one had to have been registered to receive a ballot and must return the ballot in the return envelope provided with the ballot.
Yeah, there are federal laws governing Visa durations, Commercial Drivers Licenses, aid for autistic children, COVID business relief, day care for children of low-income parents and dozens of other activities. None of them get the attention they should. Signature mismatches and other irregularities in ballot submittals and provisional ballots are often "cured". Documents are easy to forge and must be carefully matched against databases. There is no substitute for in-person voting.
Get deep enough into any endeavor and you will find some shady characters.
I'd say Trump is racist, he just doesn't let that get into the way of his using people for his own gain.
Or maybe those boxes of ballots they kept finding in trunks of vehicles were fraudulent after all.
I know of no boxes of ballots (completed, valid ballots) in trunks of cars. Georgia’s election systems are as secure as anything I’ve seen. They are more complex than needed. I don’t see how mass cheating is remotely possible. Not now, not in 2020.
Mass cheating is not likely. Stealing an election is possible but only when the margins are razor thin (like Florida in 2000 - about 4 or 5 votes per county). Recounts are useless once the ballots are counted. All of the controls must be in the registration process and positive ID of voters. I'm not sure how that is assured when a large percentage of the votes are mailed in or placed in unattended drop boxes.
"Recounts are useless once the ballots are counted."
Can you elaborate on why you think this?
My reasoning goes back to razor thin margins. I believe the ballot counting process is generally very accurate. Recounts almost always verify the original total has little or no error. Most precincts have observers and good controls. I sometimes question how many of the ballots are valid, but it seldom matters unless the election is very close. In the case of mail in or drop box ballots, there will always be a question as to whether they are valid but once they are separated from the envelopes, there is no way to determine validity.
Regarding registration: "The federal Help America Vote Act (2002) requires that individuals in all 50 states who register to vote by mail and who have not voted previously in a federal election in their state must provide either their driver's license or a paycheck, bank statement, current utility bill, or government document showing their name and address. Individuals voting by mail must include a copy of one of those documents with their absentee/mail-in ballot.
These requirements do not apply if an individual submitted a copy of their identification, their driver's license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number when registering to vote."
Mail-in ballots typically use signature matching on the return envelope containing the ballot to verify that the returned ballot is valid. We could enhance those with a voter-set PIN - as signatures do change over time - but: it's not like a drop-box is just a random ballot - one had to have been registered to receive a ballot and must return the ballot in the return envelope provided with the ballot.
Yeah, there are federal laws governing Visa durations, Commercial Drivers Licenses, aid for autistic children, COVID business relief, day care for children of low-income parents and dozens of other activities. None of them get the attention they should. Signature mismatches and other irregularities in ballot submittals and provisional ballots are often "cured". Documents are easy to forge and must be carefully matched against databases. There is no substitute for in-person voting.
I Hate New York.
John Lennon