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Cameron Sprow's avatar

None of you would vote for me for President then. I would issue the President of Mexico one warning, either you get control of the cartels, drugs, guns, etc., in your country or we will. If within one year of me taking office, Mexico has not done anything to mitigate these problems, I would, in fact, drive our military 20 miles into Mexico and set up a buffer zone. Any drug/gun or other trafficking activity caught going on within the zone will be met with lethal force, period.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

I don't question your assertion that Maduro is the underlying reason, but destroying coke smugglers is an effective deterrent. Destroying a few Mexican cartels would also be effective and the USA could get away with it if clandestine operations have improved since the Bay of Pigs and Iranian Hostage Rescue fiascos.

And more about underlying reasons. The Administration is ending immigration from 19 countries, not just because of the shooting of the National Guard members, but because it is impossible to properly vet immigrants from those nations. Lack of vetting is not a new complaint. The shootings just provided a small uptick in the tolerance for such a move.

SGman's avatar

Since when is smuggling drugs - either inside or outside the US - a capital crime per US law?

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Don't know but plenty of Administration advisors and lawyers think the actions against the murder-by-drugs cartels are justified and legal. I just think they are effective.

SGman's avatar

It's probably more accurate to state they don't really care if the actions are legal.

I disagree on them being effective because targeting low-level traffickers or mules while pardoning the heads of the orgs doesn't remove the pipeline at all.

And let's be clear: drug users are themselves responsbile for their overdoses/deaths. Nobody is forcing them to do drugs at all.

Steve Berman's avatar

That’s the stone coldest take I’ve ever read. Sure, suicides are also responsible for their own deaths. But that doesn’t mean we should not take measures to reduce depression and suicide. Drug addiction is more than a simple “I can stop whenever I want” life choice. Let’s be compassionate.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

More mind reading about whether they care. But you are correct in saying the drug lords should not be pardoned. We deserve more factual information.

There's a good chance the end of the chain of mules in the USA are among the unvetted illegals who have managed to stay below the radar or who are protected by sanctuary state and local laws.

Generally, I agree that drug users have only themselves to blame but I tend to give the benefit of a doubt to minors caught up in the wrong crowd even though they will often turn out bad if they survive. Drug users often harm innocents as well as themselves by setting innocents on fire, slitting their throats, fatal beatings, rapes and robberies.

PJ Cummings's avatar

Pretty good argument, Steve.