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Ed Willing's avatar

Surprisingly to me, I disagree with almost everything in this article. Without diving deep, I can summarize:

1. All six accounts didn’t just “criticize the head honcho,” they were tied to the tracking software or reporting what was happening. Appears to be an overreaction but your recasting of the context is disingenuous IMO.

2. Yea flight info is public. Shockingly so. But that doesn’t change the nature or concern of this, or how ridiculous it is that this kid is posting it real time. That would make ANYONE upset. Let alone when they receive daily threats and their kids are involved. Seriously David. Why don’t you post your wife’s location in real time to millions of people. Would that be completely normal? This wasn’t a question of legality. It was a question of propriety.

3. You say it “doesn’t seem” that those six accounts were related to “doxxing” activity, but you don’t know. So why make a conclusion based on what you don’t know? Elon clearly is overreacting, but it’s clearly not a “purge” like some have said or “for criticizing the head honcho” as you said. You are literally calling his reasons “opaque and dishonest” but admit earlier you can’t be sure. “May or may not,” and “seem” don’t provide cover for your own lack of surety here. The next paragraph you *seem* to reverse yourself by saying they may be “reasonable.” Huh?

4. Constantly tying this to trump is not logical. But clearly that’s what you’re doing and might explain the unreasonable jumps to conclusions or criticisms you’re laying out. You’re qualifying a judgment of action Z on what happened with action A, years earlier, even though the players and subjects are different.

This reads like an internal thought conversation with yourself, as you said one thing, break it down, possibly reverse, but settle elsewhere. A few contradictions, and little evidence of your sentiment, both explicit and implied.

I’m glad you admitted your own suffering at the hands of inconsistent algorithms. I have dealt with it too. It’s maddening.

And yes, Elon appears to be overreacting to one kids stupid behavior. Journalists are like dogs. You throw red meat out there instinct takes over. Punishing them for doing what they’re designed to do seems like a bad PR move.

But my concession on that is not the same as attacking his actions or calling him a hypocrite. I wouldn’t accuse a husband of hypocrisy if he enforced the law as a cop during the day and punched a man intimidating his wife at night. Personal emotion is a powerful thing. And right now the entire world is hyper focused on every small action elon takes. Including Racket apparently.

He’s a flawed man. He does stupid things. But the OBSESSION everyone has over his every move is driving me crazy. Y’all have gone kardashian on him. I don’t want to have to free my eyes of free speech just because of my usual sources become a monolith of obsession over one guy who’s as human as any of us. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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David Thornton's avatar

1. I haven’t seen evidence that the suspended accounts were “tied to the tracking software.” One seems to have tweeted that Sweeney had active accounts on other platforms, but does that violate the policy?

2. Musk could resolve the whole security risk by blocking his information.

3. Shouldn’t the onus be on Musk to show that they were? The accounts are blocked so I can’t peruse their timelines, but I haven’t seen evidence. At any rate, they at least don’t seem to have violated the rules until the rules abruptly changed.

4. This story is tied to Trump by Musk’s own words and actions. What Twitter did to Trump seems to have a lot to do with why he bought the company.

As I see it, Musk is becoming what he claimed to hate, but as the owner of the company, that’s his right. If he wants to run the company out of business, that’s also his prerogative.

I do agree that Twitter doesn’t really matter except to people on Twitter.

Feel free to put your thoughts into a counterpoint article.

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Chris J. Karr's avatar

+1 vote for Ed's counterpoint article!

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David Thornton's avatar

More information is coming out as well. Here’s another journalistic suspension that had nothing to do with location sharing.

https://www.facebook.com/1464473989/posts/pfbid02fFZSpQwxcD7wkJpE7wfHDWkGeRMURZPW9Wg5QcbUFzKuY37ErPP2Ry1ynvGR35rYl/?mibextid=cr9u03

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Ed Willing's avatar

Ok that wasn’t a summary. Siri made it harder to finish my thoughts. :)

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SGman's avatar

The accounts were reporting that Sweeney's account had been suspended, and in general cover Elon news. They did not report on Elon's real-time location: and technically, Sweeney only ever reported on the location of Elon's jet. Ostensibly, the jet could be used by anyone - not just Elon or his family - so to say it's a real-time doxxing of Elon's location is not necessarily true.

If the policy is going to be about putting people at risk - then Elon himself has done so by accusing people of pedophilia.

I highly recommend this thread from Judd Legum (still being added to at the time of writing this comment): https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1603876025242378248

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SGman's avatar

And per bellingcat members the event with Elon's child has been geolocated to nowhere near an airport, and over a day after the plane's last flight.

https://twitter.com/AirspaceIowa/status/1603803683858173952?s=20&t=aZxLEzqaPvnNwv22wm2HUA

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Bill Pearson's avatar

"Musk is a hypocrite."

You could have just started and ended the article there David. Everything else is just flogging the noodle brother. The quote from Bill Gates could never have been more untrue: "with great wealth comes great responsibility," then when laid next to Elon Musk's name.

He's simply become a shameless hack who enjoys pissing in anyone/everyone's Wheaties. Why you ask? Because he can. Because he's a man bored with his daily existence and here's where you are spot on right in comparison to trump: He needs to see his name in lights every morning he crawls out of bed.

He subscribes to the Daniel Schorr theory; "if you don't exist in the media, for all practical purposes you don't exist." Like trump, he sees no press as bad press, just more marketing...and soothing his ego

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