"Musk knows where his interests lie. And he’s a pretty emotionally unstable guy."
I think we've seen this movie before:
"On a quiet, leafy street of multimillion-dollar properties, one stands out: a 14,400-square-foot mansion that looks like a villa plucked from the hills of Tuscany and transplanted to Austin, Texas."
"This is where Elon Musk, 53, the world’s richest man and perhaps the most important campaign backer of former President Donald J. Trump, has been trying to establish the cornerstone of an unusual family compound, according to four people familiar with his plans."
"Mr. Musk has told people close to him in recent months that he envisions his children (of which there are at least 11) and two of their three mothers occupying adjoining properties. That way, his younger children could be a part of one another’s lives, and Mr. Musk could schedule time among them."
It's less the number, and more about how he's going about doing it:
"Over the next few years, Mr. Musk had more children with Ms. Boucher as well as with Ms. Zilis. The arrangement created tensions that sometimes flared on social media."
"In 2021, without Ms. Boucher’s knowledge, Mr. Musk donated sperm to Ms. Zilis, who became pregnant with twins through I.V.F., according to three people familiar with the couple. That same year, the billionaire and Ms. Boucher were expecting a second child also conceived via I.V.F. but carried by a surrogate."
"The two women, who had been friends and ran in similar social circles, had unknowingly been at the same Austin hospital around the same time, according to an authorized biography of Mr. Musk by Walter Isaacson. Ms. Zilis had twins in late 2021, weeks before Ms. Boucher’s child, a girl, was born. Ms. Boucher found out that Mr. Musk had fathered Ms. Zilis’s children a month after they were born, according to two people close to the situation."
I just think he has the same complex that Donald Trump has, in that he believes deeply that he has great genes (despite how those genes were expressed before he had a TON of work done).
He has major daddy issues. One of his kids is seriously confused and hates him. The older kids pretend normal. His youngest “X” hangs with him full time surrounded by nannies and attendants. I shudder to think how he will turn out.
I'll say the same thing to you that I said to a Trump loving friend: someone is going to get hosed here (OK, I cleaned up my language for you.) Either the normie Republicans like you cite here, or the MAGA minions that WANT the chaos and mass deportations. You and my other friend seem pretty confident that a Trump presidency will be business as usual. The big money guys have all these contingency plans. Goods will flow. The economy will hum. The immigrants aren't going anywhere. Trump won't hand Ukraine over to Putin. I'm being an alarmist.
Which would be great! We'll limp along for 4 years until Trump rides off into the sunset and we'll finally be done with all of this and we can just go back to the party of Reagan.
So, what happens to all the Dark MAGA's? They just accept being the live television audience for the Trump show? They stop chanting "SEND THEM BACK! SEND THEM BACK!" We're pretty much at full employment now. Have you been in Home Depot lately? Just check out a Walmart in a semi rural area and it probably looks like it's been pillaged by Vikings. Call any company's 800# and see how much help you get. What happens when prices fail to go down? When people still can't afford housing or child care or groceries?
Trump smashed the 3 legged stool that held up the party for 50 years. These people don't want us to support Ukraine any more. They aren't worried about the deficit. They want more government and more spending, they just want more of it directed towards THEM. Rick Wilson pointed out that the only leg left on that stool was religious conservatives. You think they're going to let that Florida heartbeat bill get repealed? They literally sold their souls to support Trump. They're going to let Trump weasel out of giving them their white whale of ending abortion?
And what if Democrats win the popular vote again only to see Trump put back in the White House because of 10,000 votes in 3 states? You think 51% of the country is just going to shrug and say "oh well, we have to respect the process."
No. I think there will be violence. But not a civil war. The folks you are saying are rabid and infected MAGAzombies were, just 9 years ago, regular Republicans. Before that they were TEA Partiers. Some were Ron Paul libertarians. We have all moved further apart and Democrats have become extreme progressive critical theory nuts. Nobody has any room in the tent. There will be a reckoning. But no, I don’t think Trump has irretrievably broken the country. And I don’t think 4 more years of enduring him will on its own end us. But we ourselves are on that path. And not just the Trump supporters.
No love on this one brother. Sane washing trump/musk et al seems to be all the latest rage. I'm sure by now you saw bits and pieces of the Madison Square Garden shit show and probably even noted good old Leon's X post the next morning about Kamala and the C____ word.
A really simple question for a God-fearing man of your irrefutable character...is this the kind of country and leadership you want kicking around for the next 4 years?
Here's another...is morality that dead that it's all just good fun to elect the world's biggest ass-hat as our president?
Thanks Jay, you are right, we will know sometime in the next month eh?
To be blunt here, my first question was one i want answered from Steve. I have followed his writings for years now and have found him to be a moral man of faith. Hell, i've even read most of his work where he has overloaded us with scripture. Usually it went over my head, but i put the blame on me, not him.
To be clear, i read The Racket News first today, ahead of The Bulwark. Interesting comparison between Andrew Egger and Steve's first hundred days, i tended to lean into Andrew's which was more dark.
Steve on the other hand was giving us the normalcy crap, which simply isn't realistic. Why you ask? Because trump isn't capable of being normal. Not even a little bit. Since his first term, he's become more delusional. The filters that were never there much to start with are gone completely.
And while i appreciated David's comments yesterday. my response was more the point. It isn't even so much trump as the crazies surrounding him. They are just flat out freaking nuts. Hell, my list of 11 missed Bannon, the my pillow guy and the kraken lady. Endless!
So back to my point Steve: Without regard to your "sane washing" of trump, how does a man of your moral and religious leanings even begin to pretend trump et al won't pose a problem (i'm stating it way more tame than i want)?
For a year, my office was directly 1 floor above a compressor that ran every 10 minutes or so for about a minute. It was loud. When people came to my office they’d complain and ask me how I can live with that. Of course, I had stopped hearing it after about a month. Insanity is creeping and after some time, you hardly notice it at all. Every day in a second Trump presidency will be insane. Every hour, every second. We can only hope that those who still have a brain will realize it. But I think the country stopped hearing a long time ago. So we have already normalized insanity, no? The main question that remains is how bad will the damage be and how can we recover to healthy times? I don’t know.
In response to your question: i and more than half this country have not normalized insanity. It is the absolute travesty of a government that is elected by a minority population of voters who think chaos is good.
" This country has been moving too long toward a college-for-everyone mindset, which is not only bad for our country’s ability to do things that don’t require a liberal arts degree,"
I'm not sure many jobs other than teaching require a liberal arts degree. Someone has to teach math, language, grammar and reading. Once you can read and communicate, the world is yours for what you want to make of it and what you are capable of. It's also good to know a bit of history and civics, but those subjects pretty much have to be forced on students.
A lot of talent is wasted because the education system doesn't meet society's needs.
As of 2023, there were around 1.9 million inmates incarcerated in this country, and we are a country that loves building prisons and filling them with so called tough justice. Estimates are there are somewhere in the vicinity of 12-13 million undocumented immigrants known the country.
To deport a single one them requires incarceration and process by trial. I’m very interested to hear how Trump plans to mass deport everybody now when he has to first capture and incarcerate all of them and then offer them due process prior to deportation - I am waiting for somebody on his side to say something stupid and predictable like build internment camps and conduct mass trials.
Would certainly be a constitutional crises, but it is true, if he is immune from everything what stops him from ordering actions that are not above board, and does that immunity extend to branches empowered by the executive and employees thereof?
"Musk knows where his interests lie. And he’s a pretty emotionally unstable guy."
I think we've seen this movie before:
"On a quiet, leafy street of multimillion-dollar properties, one stands out: a 14,400-square-foot mansion that looks like a villa plucked from the hills of Tuscany and transplanted to Austin, Texas."
"This is where Elon Musk, 53, the world’s richest man and perhaps the most important campaign backer of former President Donald J. Trump, has been trying to establish the cornerstone of an unusual family compound, according to four people familiar with his plans."
"Mr. Musk has told people close to him in recent months that he envisions his children (of which there are at least 11) and two of their three mothers occupying adjoining properties. That way, his younger children could be a part of one another’s lives, and Mr. Musk could schedule time among them."
https://archive.is/RyC5r
Interesting. I've known people with the same ego (without the $billions) who thought their offspring would unfailingly be a boon to society.
It's less the number, and more about how he's going about doing it:
"Over the next few years, Mr. Musk had more children with Ms. Boucher as well as with Ms. Zilis. The arrangement created tensions that sometimes flared on social media."
"In 2021, without Ms. Boucher’s knowledge, Mr. Musk donated sperm to Ms. Zilis, who became pregnant with twins through I.V.F., according to three people familiar with the couple. That same year, the billionaire and Ms. Boucher were expecting a second child also conceived via I.V.F. but carried by a surrogate."
"The two women, who had been friends and ran in similar social circles, had unknowingly been at the same Austin hospital around the same time, according to an authorized biography of Mr. Musk by Walter Isaacson. Ms. Zilis had twins in late 2021, weeks before Ms. Boucher’s child, a girl, was born. Ms. Boucher found out that Mr. Musk had fathered Ms. Zilis’s children a month after they were born, according to two people close to the situation."
I must conclude that Mr. Musk is quite the opposite of most powerful males in that he wants the kids but not the physical act of making them.
Whatever is going on in his head isn't typical.
I just think he has the same complex that Donald Trump has, in that he believes deeply that he has great genes (despite how those genes were expressed before he had a TON of work done).
He has major daddy issues. One of his kids is seriously confused and hates him. The older kids pretend normal. His youngest “X” hangs with him full time surrounded by nannies and attendants. I shudder to think how he will turn out.
I'll say the same thing to you that I said to a Trump loving friend: someone is going to get hosed here (OK, I cleaned up my language for you.) Either the normie Republicans like you cite here, or the MAGA minions that WANT the chaos and mass deportations. You and my other friend seem pretty confident that a Trump presidency will be business as usual. The big money guys have all these contingency plans. Goods will flow. The economy will hum. The immigrants aren't going anywhere. Trump won't hand Ukraine over to Putin. I'm being an alarmist.
Which would be great! We'll limp along for 4 years until Trump rides off into the sunset and we'll finally be done with all of this and we can just go back to the party of Reagan.
So, what happens to all the Dark MAGA's? They just accept being the live television audience for the Trump show? They stop chanting "SEND THEM BACK! SEND THEM BACK!" We're pretty much at full employment now. Have you been in Home Depot lately? Just check out a Walmart in a semi rural area and it probably looks like it's been pillaged by Vikings. Call any company's 800# and see how much help you get. What happens when prices fail to go down? When people still can't afford housing or child care or groceries?
Trump smashed the 3 legged stool that held up the party for 50 years. These people don't want us to support Ukraine any more. They aren't worried about the deficit. They want more government and more spending, they just want more of it directed towards THEM. Rick Wilson pointed out that the only leg left on that stool was religious conservatives. You think they're going to let that Florida heartbeat bill get repealed? They literally sold their souls to support Trump. They're going to let Trump weasel out of giving them their white whale of ending abortion?
And what if Democrats win the popular vote again only to see Trump put back in the White House because of 10,000 votes in 3 states? You think 51% of the country is just going to shrug and say "oh well, we have to respect the process."
No. I think there will be violence. But not a civil war. The folks you are saying are rabid and infected MAGAzombies were, just 9 years ago, regular Republicans. Before that they were TEA Partiers. Some were Ron Paul libertarians. We have all moved further apart and Democrats have become extreme progressive critical theory nuts. Nobody has any room in the tent. There will be a reckoning. But no, I don’t think Trump has irretrievably broken the country. And I don’t think 4 more years of enduring him will on its own end us. But we ourselves are on that path. And not just the Trump supporters.
No love on this one brother. Sane washing trump/musk et al seems to be all the latest rage. I'm sure by now you saw bits and pieces of the Madison Square Garden shit show and probably even noted good old Leon's X post the next morning about Kamala and the C____ word.
A really simple question for a God-fearing man of your irrefutable character...is this the kind of country and leadership you want kicking around for the next 4 years?
Here's another...is morality that dead that it's all just good fun to elect the world's biggest ass-hat as our president?
For your last question, we will have an answer soon.
Thanks Jay, you are right, we will know sometime in the next month eh?
To be blunt here, my first question was one i want answered from Steve. I have followed his writings for years now and have found him to be a moral man of faith. Hell, i've even read most of his work where he has overloaded us with scripture. Usually it went over my head, but i put the blame on me, not him.
To be clear, i read The Racket News first today, ahead of The Bulwark. Interesting comparison between Andrew Egger and Steve's first hundred days, i tended to lean into Andrew's which was more dark.
Steve on the other hand was giving us the normalcy crap, which simply isn't realistic. Why you ask? Because trump isn't capable of being normal. Not even a little bit. Since his first term, he's become more delusional. The filters that were never there much to start with are gone completely.
And while i appreciated David's comments yesterday. my response was more the point. It isn't even so much trump as the crazies surrounding him. They are just flat out freaking nuts. Hell, my list of 11 missed Bannon, the my pillow guy and the kraken lady. Endless!
So back to my point Steve: Without regard to your "sane washing" of trump, how does a man of your moral and religious leanings even begin to pretend trump et al won't pose a problem (i'm stating it way more tame than i want)?
For a year, my office was directly 1 floor above a compressor that ran every 10 minutes or so for about a minute. It was loud. When people came to my office they’d complain and ask me how I can live with that. Of course, I had stopped hearing it after about a month. Insanity is creeping and after some time, you hardly notice it at all. Every day in a second Trump presidency will be insane. Every hour, every second. We can only hope that those who still have a brain will realize it. But I think the country stopped hearing a long time ago. So we have already normalized insanity, no? The main question that remains is how bad will the damage be and how can we recover to healthy times? I don’t know.
Thank you for the answer Steve.
In response to your question: i and more than half this country have not normalized insanity. It is the absolute travesty of a government that is elected by a minority population of voters who think chaos is good.
I would not say love chaos though some clearly do. More like they don’t hear it anymore.
From the headline:
When you believe in things That you don't understand, Then you suffer, Superstition aint the way
" This country has been moving too long toward a college-for-everyone mindset, which is not only bad for our country’s ability to do things that don’t require a liberal arts degree,"
I'm not sure many jobs other than teaching require a liberal arts degree. Someone has to teach math, language, grammar and reading. Once you can read and communicate, the world is yours for what you want to make of it and what you are capable of. It's also good to know a bit of history and civics, but those subjects pretty much have to be forced on students.
A lot of talent is wasted because the education system doesn't meet society's needs.
I just can’t let myself go there. 4 years of unprecedented chaos? We are all going to need treatment for PTSD when this is over, no matter who wins.
My favorite thing at the moment is seeing Elon stating that Trump's/his policies will wreck the economy - and that it's necessary to do so!
As of 2023, there were around 1.9 million inmates incarcerated in this country, and we are a country that loves building prisons and filling them with so called tough justice. Estimates are there are somewhere in the vicinity of 12-13 million undocumented immigrants known the country.
To deport a single one them requires incarceration and process by trial. I’m very interested to hear how Trump plans to mass deport everybody now when he has to first capture and incarcerate all of them and then offer them due process prior to deportation - I am waiting for somebody on his side to say something stupid and predictable like build internment camps and conduct mass trials.
Why wouldn’t the Eternally Immune President just put them on boats and buses and C-5As and haul their behinds to whatever country they came from?
Would certainly be a constitutional crises, but it is true, if he is immune from everything what stops him from ordering actions that are not above board, and does that immunity extend to branches empowered by the executive and employees thereof?