David... normally I stay quiet in the comments. I agree that Trump was never pro-life. It was a pandering move in 2016 and 2020. He never really believed it (gasp! he lied!). I am not so sure that a Harris-led government could not negotiate some kind of national abortion protection, akin to Roe but federal law. It's hard to hold the position that Republicans would cave to Trump's pro-choice views, but oppose the same views from Harris simply because it's Harris. That may be so, but Harris only needs a few votes. I think it's far more likely that a Harris administration would produce federal abortion legislation which would override laws like Georgia's 6-week "heartbeat law" (which, for now, is back in effect after having been struck by a Superior Court judge). Also, as for Scripture, I have never thought of Proverbs 6 as a ranking of sin. I alway considered that God hates all sin equally. The "six-seven" construct in the OT, especially in Proverbs and Psalms is a poetic/literary device that plays on the themes of six days of creation and seven as the number of completion. I don't think arguing over the ranking of items in that list is fruitful.
I do not believe that. It is what democrats accuse them of. Democrats are better at lying to convince the public that compromise is a one-way street. Democrats do not compromise.
As smart as you are Steve (and i mean that as a compliment), anyone who would full out admit they are a "single issue voter" leaves me stunned. While i get your passion over the abortion issue, what about that list of other "sins?"
As i read the verse above, trump's behavior (as David noted) was rooted in the remainder. Is one more important than the other? Is morality in the total not just as important as a single one of those listed? I would argue more so, but what's the point ?
I have been torn about this election; no not who to vote for, but for the ugliness of what this country has become. Over the weekend, i had an epiphany. Much like when i sobered up 48 years ago and was told "let go, let God," i have come to believe trump/vance/musk et al will lose because of their evil ways.
This past weekend with the lies about Hurricane Helene and the relief effort, i find myself beyond disgusted by the pure and utter bullshit they are spewing. Time for them to just go away.
Many people are focusing on one topic before deciding how to vote. I do too! Mine is lying! More than 100 times the Bible discusses it. Neither candidate is pro-life. One is pro constitution. One is for supporting our allies, one supports and adores dictators. This should be an easy vote.
Excellent that you’ve pointed out the cognitive dissonance required to review that list of sins, and on that basis conclude that Trump is your choice. That is an example of post hoc “reasoning” at its finest and most hilarious.
I suppose there are some people who are (or at least claim to be) “single issue voters”. If such existed, and abortion (or anti-)was the issue, to be exact, then yeah Trump would probably be a little closer to that, although not by very much.
I love my son, but I would never have had children that we could not afford. Free birth control for all. Who really needs children if they are not willing to sacrifice for them?
Trump, Vance, Johnson, GOP: We cut disaster relief funding, we’re blocking supplemental funds right now, we’ll cut more if elected, but we’ll lie and blame any real problems—plus ones we make up—on people you already hate.
Millions of MAGA voters: Thank you, this is what I want.
David Thornton, I think your piece is an attempt to give your conscience the license it needs to vote Kamala. Be careful, because a few lies are also contained in your column, and I know you are aware of how God feels about false witness. And the Democrats are on the move toward the middle? If I were drinking a beverage while reading that, it would have been all over my dining room table. Please, the Democrats are moving rapidly toward marxism/communism and anyone who cannot see that either doesn't want to, or is excusing it because of the candidate he/she supports. As for abortion, it is the reason I cannot vote for either Trump or Harris, among many others on both sides. Besides which, the 14th amendment outlaws abortion, but we do not have anyone running for President with the backbone to enforce it, unfortunately.
Funding appropriations are done by Congress which would require at least a dozen or so of the minority party to participate. Prioritization is a farce that is not intended to meet the needs of the citizenry. It is a compromise designed to get as many incumbents as possible reelected. A President who is aware of the need for worst-case planning and a true leader would not participate in the farce. He would force Congress to override his veto. In most cases the President is a ninny who also wants to get reelected or see a successor from his party get elected.
Threats of government shutdown are nothing but stirring up the public. Compromises are of little benefit to the public.
Things like this in Texas need be addressed by the anti-abortion activists, 'cause it's outright not in either women's nor the state's interest regarding life - but it is the effect of having either outright bans or zero exceptions.
“ Real progress must acknowledge history, not discard it.”. More importantly it must not be rewritten. I am in the middle of homeschooling lessons with my grandson and will dig deeper into this later. So, another question. Are you a supporter of Facism? Is it more desirable than Marxism?
We could all live with the Constitution if it is strictly followed. I am not for interpreting the 14th Amendment as allowing birthright citizenship for tourists and illegals. I do not like the 17th Amendment because it dilutes states' rights, but I can live with it.
David... normally I stay quiet in the comments. I agree that Trump was never pro-life. It was a pandering move in 2016 and 2020. He never really believed it (gasp! he lied!). I am not so sure that a Harris-led government could not negotiate some kind of national abortion protection, akin to Roe but federal law. It's hard to hold the position that Republicans would cave to Trump's pro-choice views, but oppose the same views from Harris simply because it's Harris. That may be so, but Harris only needs a few votes. I think it's far more likely that a Harris administration would produce federal abortion legislation which would override laws like Georgia's 6-week "heartbeat law" (which, for now, is back in effect after having been struck by a Superior Court judge). Also, as for Scripture, I have never thought of Proverbs 6 as a ranking of sin. I alway considered that God hates all sin equally. The "six-seven" construct in the OT, especially in Proverbs and Psalms is a poetic/literary device that plays on the themes of six days of creation and seven as the number of completion. I don't think arguing over the ranking of items in that list is fruitful.
I don’t think Harris could pass national abortion legislation without help from Republicans, even if the filibuster was removed.
I’m not sure that the verse ranks sin, but I do see it as inclusive. I don’t think we disagree there.
As long as threats to shut down the government are taken seriously, democrats will get much of what they want.
It is Republicans that threaten to shut down the government and the tactic does not work well.
I do not believe that. It is what democrats accuse them of. Democrats are better at lying to convince the public that compromise is a one-way street. Democrats do not compromise.
As smart as you are Steve (and i mean that as a compliment), anyone who would full out admit they are a "single issue voter" leaves me stunned. While i get your passion over the abortion issue, what about that list of other "sins?"
As i read the verse above, trump's behavior (as David noted) was rooted in the remainder. Is one more important than the other? Is morality in the total not just as important as a single one of those listed? I would argue more so, but what's the point ?
I have been torn about this election; no not who to vote for, but for the ugliness of what this country has become. Over the weekend, i had an epiphany. Much like when i sobered up 48 years ago and was told "let go, let God," i have come to believe trump/vance/musk et al will lose because of their evil ways.
This past weekend with the lies about Hurricane Helene and the relief effort, i find myself beyond disgusted by the pure and utter bullshit they are spewing. Time for them to just go away.
The heart isn't full formed until ~17-20 weeks: that's when all chambers have formed, barring any developmental issues.
Many people are focusing on one topic before deciding how to vote. I do too! Mine is lying! More than 100 times the Bible discusses it. Neither candidate is pro-life. One is pro constitution. One is for supporting our allies, one supports and adores dictators. This should be an easy vote.
Not to be picky Kim, but that's more than one topic, which makes you more than a single issue voter (like most people).
Pretty much leaves you with no one to vote for.
Neither candidate is pro-constitution. Both support and adore dictators.
Excellent that you’ve pointed out the cognitive dissonance required to review that list of sins, and on that basis conclude that Trump is your choice. That is an example of post hoc “reasoning” at its finest and most hilarious.
I suppose there are some people who are (or at least claim to be) “single issue voters”. If such existed, and abortion (or anti-)was the issue, to be exact, then yeah Trump would probably be a little closer to that, although not by very much.
Pro-Birth, Anti-Life: The GOP's Child Welfare Hypocrisy
From anti-abortion crusades to shrugging at child care—because who needs health care or food, right?
https://substack.com/home/post/p-148613239?r=4d7sow&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I love my son, but I would never have had children that we could not afford. Free birth control for all. Who really needs children if they are not willing to sacrifice for them?
Quoting Nicholas Grossman:
Trump, Vance, Johnson, GOP: We cut disaster relief funding, we’re blocking supplemental funds right now, we’ll cut more if elected, but we’ll lie and blame any real problems—plus ones we make up—on people you already hate.
Millions of MAGA voters: Thank you, this is what I want.
You can start by reading…https://open.substack.com/pub/classythomasmassie/p/the-biden-administration-is-punishing?r=b9uvv&utm_medium=ios
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David Thornton, I think your piece is an attempt to give your conscience the license it needs to vote Kamala. Be careful, because a few lies are also contained in your column, and I know you are aware of how God feels about false witness. And the Democrats are on the move toward the middle? If I were drinking a beverage while reading that, it would have been all over my dining room table. Please, the Democrats are moving rapidly toward marxism/communism and anyone who cannot see that either doesn't want to, or is excusing it because of the candidate he/she supports. As for abortion, it is the reason I cannot vote for either Trump or Harris, among many others on both sides. Besides which, the 14th amendment outlaws abortion, but we do not have anyone running for President with the backbone to enforce it, unfortunately.
Funding appropriations are done by Congress which would require at least a dozen or so of the minority party to participate. Prioritization is a farce that is not intended to meet the needs of the citizenry. It is a compromise designed to get as many incumbents as possible reelected. A President who is aware of the need for worst-case planning and a true leader would not participate in the farce. He would force Congress to override his veto. In most cases the President is a ninny who also wants to get reelected or see a successor from his party get elected.
Threats of government shutdown are nothing but stirring up the public. Compromises are of little benefit to the public.
Things like this in Texas need be addressed by the anti-abortion activists, 'cause it's outright not in either women's nor the state's interest regarding life - but it is the effect of having either outright bans or zero exceptions.
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-emergency-abortion-texas-bf79fafceba4ab9df9df2489e5d43e72?#
KAMALA Keep A Marxist Arms Length Away
Proof. Any proof that she is a marxist.
Start here…https://www.frontpagemag.com/kamala-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been-is-this-marxist-code/
“ Real progress must acknowledge history, not discard it.”. More importantly it must not be rewritten. I am in the middle of homeschooling lessons with my grandson and will dig deeper into this later. So, another question. Are you a supporter of Facism? Is it more desirable than Marxism?
No I’m for the constitution and it’s amendments especially the first and second.
We could all live with the Constitution if it is strictly followed. I am not for interpreting the 14th Amendment as allowing birthright citizenship for tourists and illegals. I do not like the 17th Amendment because it dilutes states' rights, but I can live with it.
And…https://youtu.be/V4KFls5RcCw?si=U0KPU_4baHAczSli
Fair share….https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-income-taxes-top-1-percent-irs-tax-foundation-joe-biden-fair-share-3394355b