I tend to agree. I know people on both sides of the issue, and I’m somewhat agnostic on it, but if I had to choose I’d come down on the side that says Paul’s instructions were for specific churches within a specific culture.
Even when I was in the SBC, women couldn’t preach but they did have prominent and Important leadership roles such as Sunday School teachers. My current nondenominational church had a woman as a youth director for quite a while.
Seems like just a crisis of blatant sexism to me, where “men” (no doubt with small members) say that women can’t do something like preaching.
It’s just basic meritocracy. Either someone can do the job (of preaching, and leading a congregation), or they can’t. And if they can, then their sex/gender have nothing to do with it.
my sons and DAUGHTERS SHALL : Joel 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Today, woman are not dragged thru the street and shamed like they would have been back then....
I still belong to one of those churches that forbids women pastors. Or deacons. And the dudes that meet for the annual convention are actively trying to boot the other churches that DO. Keeping women out of power has not served the church well and quite frankly, I'm tired of it.
My pastor, Greek and Hebrew scholar, said about the woman speaking in church, can be (and should be) translated to "chatter/utter in church". It is true, that woman do tend to talk more than most men, and will initiate the convo w/husband more readily than the other way around. So...no one should chatter in church when the teacher is teaching. the intent is more like a figure of speech.... I bet more women spend more hours talking on the phone with a friend than most men do. And there is nothing wrong with that. from: a woman.
Paul didn't speak against women prophesying, did he? I think he was only opposed to women preaching to or teaching men in religious matters (probably because women didn't get the religious training that men did. There were no female Pharisees or priests, were there?).
I tend to agree. I know people on both sides of the issue, and I’m somewhat agnostic on it, but if I had to choose I’d come down on the side that says Paul’s instructions were for specific churches within a specific culture.
Even when I was in the SBC, women couldn’t preach but they did have prominent and Important leadership roles such as Sunday School teachers. My current nondenominational church had a woman as a youth director for quite a while.
Seems like just a crisis of blatant sexism to me, where “men” (no doubt with small members) say that women can’t do something like preaching.
It’s just basic meritocracy. Either someone can do the job (of preaching, and leading a congregation), or they can’t. And if they can, then their sex/gender have nothing to do with it.
my sons and DAUGHTERS SHALL : Joel 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Today, woman are not dragged thru the street and shamed like they would have been back then....
Preach it brother, preach it.
The list is endless and sickening; one only has to look at the recent developments at Liberty University.
One big freaking AMEN! (Hoping that's not sacrilegious.)
I still belong to one of those churches that forbids women pastors. Or deacons. And the dudes that meet for the annual convention are actively trying to boot the other churches that DO. Keeping women out of power has not served the church well and quite frankly, I'm tired of it.
One wonders why we need a broker, a wholesaler, an intermediary between us and God when such wonderful satisfactions are obtained by "going direct".
My pastor, Greek and Hebrew scholar, said about the woman speaking in church, can be (and should be) translated to "chatter/utter in church". It is true, that woman do tend to talk more than most men, and will initiate the convo w/husband more readily than the other way around. So...no one should chatter in church when the teacher is teaching. the intent is more like a figure of speech.... I bet more women spend more hours talking on the phone with a friend than most men do. And there is nothing wrong with that. from: a woman.
Heretical column, 'nuff said.
Paul didn't speak against women prophesying, did he? I think he was only opposed to women preaching to or teaching men in religious matters (probably because women didn't get the religious training that men did. There were no female Pharisees or priests, were there?).