The last few years has shown how dangerous it is to say “the media lies.” Or imply that they’re intentionally or “obliviously” repeating them. Cuz they’re stupid and don’t know that entities spin their news? We’re smarter than thousands of other journalists who are actually THERE?
No the media didn’t lie, and their words were relating facts in a context your disagreed with. Fair enough. Using your own words, it may have “left out” information you feel is better context.
But you also added words judging intent, words the media didn’t use, like “Other media outlets quickly picked up on the AP story, reporting as if Israel targeted the AP, or the media itself.”
They’re headlines, Steve. Why are we writing articles about the integrity of headlines lacking context when the very definition of a headline is removing context to categorize the story itself which provides more?
Isn’t that the kind of lacking-word usage you’re accusing the media of? In the least, you’re claiming they’re saying Israel targeted the media, which it is not doing. Your *legitimate* concern of missing context is overshadowed by the same kind of implication in word play by saying they “lied” by not saying what you think they should have said. Just say the former... It remains the facts were generally accurate as reported. And perhaps in the rush to information delivery, mistakes or omissions were made. But I am offended by the constant media bashing, and fact-muddying that our side (conservatives) engage in when it doesn’t support our preferences. It happens way too often. This story is only the latest. It forces millions to find their own “truth,” which most of the time results in readers falling upon only the very out-of-context, lacking, slanted information that confirms their own biases, which is the issue that sent them on this quest to begin with, yes?
I don’t think we should push this “media lies” narrative. Let each reader pick, chew through, and find their preferred sources, but bashing this monolithic “media” as a whole is making us less informed, more polarized, severely in denial, or completely wrong on obvious issues.
Covid hoax? The stolen election? Jade Helm? Q? These persist and spread more because of this misleading belief that the media lies. Why legitimize the fringe by bolstering their central argument?
Sorry if this rubs you the wrong way, but the headline was so clearly false I felt compelled to say something. It’s a debate I continue to have with people not just to argue, but out of concern for a wholesale rejection of objectivity we’ve become characterized by. I always thought our side overwhelmingly seeks the truth. I no longer believe that. And I am finding more liberals to be better informed about facts than my own closer circle. They may be wrong on policies or how to fix things, but the facts on what needs fixing are increasingly becoming invisible to an ideology in denial.
I completely agree. Hamas couldn't care less about the actual lives of Palestinians, and the latter are certainly expendable to them in their quest to prevail in the propaganda based narrative against Israel. The media has been woeful in getting the facts straight. It is also pretty revolting that people get their sensibilities all wound up because Israel has the temerity to do what every self-respecting nation would do if they had over a thousand rockets launched against them. And that is to respond in self-defense. Excellent column Steve, thank you.
It's got to be scary to see the public turn on people you care about but Israel is to blame for this mess. The amount of land they have gobbled up over the last couple decades, how they have treated non Jews(even during relative peace), and the brash entitlement they have shown as a nation has turned most of Europe and a good portion of America against them. It says a lot about a nation when the "terrorists" get better press.
The last few years has shown how dangerous it is to say “the media lies.” Or imply that they’re intentionally or “obliviously” repeating them. Cuz they’re stupid and don’t know that entities spin their news? We’re smarter than thousands of other journalists who are actually THERE?
No the media didn’t lie, and their words were relating facts in a context your disagreed with. Fair enough. Using your own words, it may have “left out” information you feel is better context.
But you also added words judging intent, words the media didn’t use, like “Other media outlets quickly picked up on the AP story, reporting as if Israel targeted the AP, or the media itself.”
They’re headlines, Steve. Why are we writing articles about the integrity of headlines lacking context when the very definition of a headline is removing context to categorize the story itself which provides more?
Isn’t that the kind of lacking-word usage you’re accusing the media of? In the least, you’re claiming they’re saying Israel targeted the media, which it is not doing. Your *legitimate* concern of missing context is overshadowed by the same kind of implication in word play by saying they “lied” by not saying what you think they should have said. Just say the former... It remains the facts were generally accurate as reported. And perhaps in the rush to information delivery, mistakes or omissions were made. But I am offended by the constant media bashing, and fact-muddying that our side (conservatives) engage in when it doesn’t support our preferences. It happens way too often. This story is only the latest. It forces millions to find their own “truth,” which most of the time results in readers falling upon only the very out-of-context, lacking, slanted information that confirms their own biases, which is the issue that sent them on this quest to begin with, yes?
I don’t think we should push this “media lies” narrative. Let each reader pick, chew through, and find their preferred sources, but bashing this monolithic “media” as a whole is making us less informed, more polarized, severely in denial, or completely wrong on obvious issues.
Covid hoax? The stolen election? Jade Helm? Q? These persist and spread more because of this misleading belief that the media lies. Why legitimize the fringe by bolstering their central argument?
Sorry if this rubs you the wrong way, but the headline was so clearly false I felt compelled to say something. It’s a debate I continue to have with people not just to argue, but out of concern for a wholesale rejection of objectivity we’ve become characterized by. I always thought our side overwhelmingly seeks the truth. I no longer believe that. And I am finding more liberals to be better informed about facts than my own closer circle. They may be wrong on policies or how to fix things, but the facts on what needs fixing are increasingly becoming invisible to an ideology in denial.
I completely agree. Hamas couldn't care less about the actual lives of Palestinians, and the latter are certainly expendable to them in their quest to prevail in the propaganda based narrative against Israel. The media has been woeful in getting the facts straight. It is also pretty revolting that people get their sensibilities all wound up because Israel has the temerity to do what every self-respecting nation would do if they had over a thousand rockets launched against them. And that is to respond in self-defense. Excellent column Steve, thank you.
It's got to be scary to see the public turn on people you care about but Israel is to blame for this mess. The amount of land they have gobbled up over the last couple decades, how they have treated non Jews(even during relative peace), and the brash entitlement they have shown as a nation has turned most of Europe and a good portion of America against them. It says a lot about a nation when the "terrorists" get better press.