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Chris J. Karr's avatar

I'm team #UTCEverywhere.

We can keep goofing around with time zones, but it's all going to be for naught once we have a significant number of humans living off-planet in contexts with drastically different solar cycles. (A lunar day is 708.7 hours.)

Chris J. Karr's avatar

And given my clients across the country now, I effectively live in at least four time zones.

SGman's avatar

I wouldn't mind this either.

Salted Grits's avatar

I find the idea of artificially creating more daylight to be alarming. The health consequences to every living organism on the planet would be catastrophic. Just because we can does not mean we should.

Eric Strickland's avatar

Having lived in Arizona for 40+ years before moving back to the east coast, I do not like daylight savings time. Sunrise is best in the early morning hours and not during the rush hour, In northeast Florida the sun comes up too late as it is and pushing sunrise an hour later in the winter is a depressing thought.

Steve Berman's avatar

Perhaps states should be able to opt in/out basically changing their time zone. Western Florida and Georgia are really good candidates to be in the Central Time Zone (part of western panhandle actually is).

Eric Strickland's avatar

If changing the clock twice a year is unhealthy then don’t change it. The Earth is divided into 24 time zones. If people really want to be within a natural cycle then stay within the natural cycle and not try to manipulate nature to satisfy a whim. If tweaks need to be made after abandoning daylight savings time they can be made on a case by case basis and avoid a hodgepodge of changes that makes no sense .

SGman's avatar

Permanent DST was attempted in the 70s, and reversed after a few months.

I'm for abolishing DST and just using Standard time. If someone wants to be on a different schedule, let 'em do so on their own: they can talk to their employer about their work hours to align with their preferred schedule.

Heck, maybe their employer will even have their own desire for "Summer hours".

Dennis Bodzash's avatar

I'm all-in on permanent DST and hard-no on Reflect Orbital. I'm a night shifter and haven't been on the traditional daylight schedule in over 20 years but, remembering way back when, there was nothing I hated more than having to cut outdoor activities short on a freakishly warm winter day because the Sun was setting before 5pm. Yes, sunrise in my location would be pushed to nearly 9am on permanent DST but where are most people at this time? In work or school, not outside. Let it be dark when people are inside and let there be light when the vast majority of people have the freedom to enjoy the great outdoors!

As for the argument about kids going to school in the dark, polar regions already deal with this (as do many regions in the USA in the depth of winter) and you aren't seeing stories about kids being hit by cars every time you turn around. Teaching kids to literally be street smart is the job of parents and every parent with a hint of common sense should have already told their kids to look both ways before entering a street, walk against traffic, and always let the car go first if in any doubt. Opponents are looking for a problem where none exists.

On the other end of things, while many people think earlier summer sunrises with permanent ST would be great for yard work, most municipalities have noise ordinances that de-facto ban mowing the grass before, at earliest 7am (my city's ban is until 8am), which is the time a lot of people have to start getting ready for work, anyway.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

I grew up in NE Georgia. For some reason I adapted to west coast time when I moved to Seattle better than adapting to central time when I later moved from Atlanta to Birmingham. I spent one June 1965 night in Gold Bay, Oregon directly on the Pacific Ocean on my way to Seattle and I seem to remember that the sun did not set until after 9:00 p.m. When I moved from Atlanta to Birmingham in 1985, it was getting dark at 4:00 p.m.

Now, I don't care about time standards. I no longer play golf and seldom go out at night. The only reason I keep up with time is for medical appointments.

SGman's avatar

Going from East to West is easier in general, as you wake up/go to sleep earlier - where other way 'round you do the opposite.

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

That's certainly true for short business trips. I was always miserable when I returned to Atlanta from California. Happy to be home but I had left California at 8:00 a.m. Pacific Time and did not get home until about 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time.

Lucinda's avatar

I thought one of the original reasons to revert back to standard time in the winter was so that children weren’t waiting for the bus in the dark.