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Jay Berman's avatar

Difficult for any GOP presidential candidate to be elected with a fractured party. Is Trump able to pull in new voters to party in a meaningful larger number than the conservatives that he exiled? I doubt it.

Steve Berman's avatar

One point of clarification. Melania Trump did not skip the RNC. She didn’t speak, which is a departure from recent conventions, especially featuring an incumbent (though Trump is a grey zone on that). She didn’t show up until the last day. Melania was there with Donald for his acceptance.

David Thornton's avatar

Thanks for the clarification/correction.

SGman's avatar

Kinzinger is speaking today, to my knowledge.

Steve Cheung's avatar

I think 1 of the GOP speakers last night said a republican vote for Harris doesn’t make them a democrat, but it makes them a patriot. That rings true….cuz only 1 candidate is credibly threatening to disregard parts of the constitution.

However, some conservative has also warned that Kamala may not distinguish a vote to deny trump from a vote for her mandate. It would be a mistake for her to tack left in office, and I hope she does not do so, if she is given the chance.

Kim Baker Glenn's avatar

He may not be likable, he won’t answer questions without insulting or slamming his opposition, but in his four years he got things done. Good things. ‘Kamala and Joe are directly responsible for the border crisis, inflation and the housing dilemma that young people are facing now. As it stands, the only thing that Kamala has proposed is price fixing. How can any Republican or Independent vote for that?

Chris J. Karr's avatar

Easy - we Kamala-voting Republicans and independents know that she'll respect the outcome of the election, even if it doesn't fall in her favor.

A REALLY low bar to clear, but only one side is meeting that standard this time.

Steve Berman's avatar

Then if Trump says he’ll respect the election results, he’ll get your votes? (LOL it wasn’t a serious question)

Chris J. Karr's avatar

If Trump came out tomorrow and both said that he'd respect the results of the upcoming race AND concede in unambiguous terms that he lost the last one and was wrong to try to pressure folks to find otherwise, that would at least earn him the labor of me considering his candidacy. There's a lot of other stuff that he would have to convincingly swear off of (such as leaving the DoJ alone), but it's the election denialism that earns the automatic NO from me.

SGman's avatar

The border "crisis" is a long-running issue, one of the root causes being that we don't fund the system enough to process applications and asylum claims in a timely manner. This leads to abuse of the asylum claim system: the only way to change that is via legislation, which Trump opposes.

Housing is one that has little to do with any Federal policy, instead being an issue with zoning at the local level. It's one of those issues that actually transcends partisan politics, in that it is the haves (home/landowners) vs the have-nots (renters/potential buyers/etc...). And yet: Trump has taken the side of NIMBYs, and has boasted about keeping poor people out of the suburbs. Harris has proposed incentivizing building more housing units.

On inflation: please let me know how universal tariffs on imports, mass deportation, and devaluation of the dollar will be anything other than massively inflationary moves - 'cause that's Trump's plan.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

If you are a Republican now supporting Harris/Walz, you are flirting with Communism. On a side note, there were a few democrats who spoke at the RNC.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

I'll keep flirting, then, with my two small businesses, and a history of supporting open and fair markets.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

And you will eventually lose those businesses because open and fair markets will cease to be a thing.

Chris J. Karr's avatar

People have been saying that for as long as I've had them, but they're healthy as ever.

You can only claim that the sky is falling a limited number of times before folks start looking at you as Chicken Little.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

People have voted for their own demise many times in the past. Just one example: Venezuela

Chris J. Karr's avatar

I'm confident that you'll wring your hands enough for the both of us.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

But isn't it better if you don't vote for your own demise? Then neither one of us will wring our hands.

SGman's avatar

Yawn. Get new material.

SGman's avatar

Liberalism > Illiberalism.

Quoting Patrick Chovanec as for why Republicans support Harris/Walz: "I don't believe that Harris/Walz will move the country in the right direction. But I believe they will preserve the system that will allow it to move in the right direction. That's why I'm voting for them, and against Trump/Vance."

As we've discussed, conservatives actually care about conserving our liberal order: the GOP is not conservative, and a danger to our liberal order.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

The GOP is not conservative, but the Democrats are vastly less so, to the point of being openly Marxist/Communist.

SGman's avatar

The candidate for the GOP has stated he wants to terminate the Constitution, and to be a dictator on day one.

The candidate for the Democrats has not.

Have a good one!

Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Kamala Harris says hardly anything in public about her views and policies these days. The democrat hero and current Harris mentor, Barack Obama, says the Constitution is a hinderance to his style of governing.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

No, she only said she wants price controls, national Healthcare totally run through Medicare, and mandatory gun buybacks. So, she is saying she wants to be a dictator without actually saying it. Have a good one.

SGman's avatar

Enacting legislation does not a dictator make.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

So, the so-called conservatives who are voting Harris/Walz could be compared to the Lincoln Project, yes?

Steve Cheung's avatar

Dude find a new word. Kamala ain’t great but it’s not communism by any sane definition of the word. If “red scare” is all the present GOP have got, that’s pretty lame.

Cameron Sprow's avatar

To quote Johnathan Swift, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."