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Susan Bagwell's avatar

To clarify, for those with civic senses so dulled that you dont get it, J6 was worse than 9/11 because 9/11 was done by outsiders, with no allegiance to our Constitution, and no other purpose than to harm us. J6 was perpetrated by fellow Americans, from the inside, with the purpose of fundamentally destroying our republic and installing a king by force. That is why it is and always will be worse.

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SGman's avatar

Autocracies rewrite history so that things that clearly happened just...didn't happen. That's what we're seeing re Jan 6. And we'll see more.

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

Indeed.

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Joe DeKeyser's avatar

Wow, TDS on steroids. To be sure, January 6, 2021 was a low point in the history of our republic and there were bad actors who tried to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. What is overlooked is that the many who attended that rally were not there to overthrow the government but rather to protest the manner in which the election was run. To be clear, I do not support the idea that the election was stolen but there were real abuse of the electoral process in many jurisdictions. Lumping all attendees and Trump loyalists as mindless cultists serves no purpose other than, perhaps, affording an air of moral superiority to the never Trump cabal.

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

"It couldnt happen to us."

Famous last words of a dying republic.

And no, I dont have Trump Devotion Syndrome, but you obviously do.

As for those 'bad actors,' they were Trump supporters. And if they're still supporting him at this point, they remain bad actors.

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Joe DeKeyser's avatar

You ignore that there were bad actors who were not Trump supporters and that Trump offered National Guard support for local and Capitol law enforcement but was rejected by both Speaker Pelosi and Mayor Bowser. What you call many were in reality dozens in a crowd of probably 50,000. The violence was wrong. The persecution of mere attendees is the real scandal. Jailing, prosecuting, and destroying the lives of well intentioned citizens is anathema to the fundamental principle of America.

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

Literally NOTHING you said here is in the same ballpark as truth. Trump did NOTHING, beyond inciting the events. You're in a cult, and you are the very one this piece was written about.

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Joe DeKeyser's avatar

Whatever gets you through the night. Apparently that’s making sweeping generalizations about the things that are living rent free inside your head.

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

More things babbled out that make no sense, nor do they add to the conversation.

You're just randomly posting words, in between your worship sessions at the Tang-flavored altar.

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Joe DeKeyser's avatar

🥱

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Salted Grits's avatar

"Lumping all attendees and Trump loyalists as mindless cults..." How else do you explain the continued support of a man who incited the violence on January 6 and reveled in the degree of violence to which many of his supporters were willing to inflict on his behalf and who, then, instead of rejecting him have returned him to the presidency? As a 28 year Republican, I am horrified that the people of my party have seen fit to look the other way. There were other options in the Republican primary. Susan is absolutely correct.

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Jonathan Pugh's avatar

Oh, shaddup, Trump Cuck. You Trump Cucks have tried ( in vain, I would add ) to project your original ( and only ) Trump Derangement Syndrome onto us loud, proud, unapologetic Never - Trump Conservatives ( THE Conservatives in the room ), ever since your orange - faced fuhrer became president, in 2017. The sad, pathetic

" T.D.S " projection accusation is motivated by your knowledge that the Trump Derangement Syndrome label is already, permanently branded onto the backside of you foaming-at-the-mouth Trump Cucks. The history books are, already, written. You Trump Cucks will never be able to shed the Trump Derangement Syndrome label, no matter how hard you project. Now go on back to your Trump safe space ( Breitbart or Gateway Pundit ) and mutter to yourself.

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Joe DeKeyser's avatar

The bitterness and hate you (collectively) harbor is so counterproductive

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Jonathan Pugh's avatar

Again, With The Trump - Style Hate Projection. Boring. Your Fooling Nobody. Not Even Yourself. You'll Never Succeed In Projecting Your Rage, Hatred And Thirst For Vengeance Onto Us Never - Trump Conservatives ( THE Conservatives In The Room ). 😁 Nice Try, Though.

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Joe DeKeyser's avatar

Confirming my previous point

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Thanks. A majority of the voters need another know-it-all hater to tell us why we should have reelected a political cabal (members unknown) which was effectively destroying our nation while falsely claiming their opponents are fascists.

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Cameron Sprow's avatar

Let's see, 9/11 vs j6. On j6, not one life was lost except Ashli Babbitt, a protestor who was shot and killed by a cop. Let me say that a different way, no cops, no politicians, no bystanders lost their lives as a result of the riot, only 1 of the protestors died. On 9/11, over 2900 Americans were killed. I watched BOTH horrible events go down, and I can tell you, I was moved to emotion for weeks after 9/ll, and still get choked up when I watch what happened that day. I can't say the same about j6. While I said when it happened that this was bad, this shouldn't be happening, never did i think to myself, this is worse than 9/11. never. I read what Ms. Bagwell wrote about j6, and I have been hard on David Thornton for what he has written concerning j6, but this piece takes the cake. Not a lot about what she wrote is in any way truthful, I'm sorry to say. Susan Bagwell should be ashamed of herself for this complete piece of trash. I'm not a Trump supporter, I've never voted for him, but I am a seeker of truth, and this is not it. If my post makes me resemble all the nasty innuendo that Ms. Bagwell spewed about those who disagree with her, I wear it proudly.

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

You're an idiot, clearly, but I'll attempt to explain [again]:

9/11 was committed by outsiders, who only wanted to hurt us. J6 was insiders, who wanted to bring down our entire nation, our Constitution, and to install a king by force, to fundamentally change everything about our government, in order to appease their cult ideology.

J6 WAS worse.

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Cooter's avatar

Additionally, how many children lost a parent on 9/11? How many were orphaned?

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puddin tane's avatar

Troll much?

Who wrote this drivel? You or your deep state handlers and AI?

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Geckogirl's avatar

"J6 was perpetrated by fellow Americans, from the inside, with the purpose of fundamentally destroying our republic and installing a king by force" - that's right" It was an inside job" - a fed led insurrection" to install king Biden! Make America Great Again - to the Republic for which it stands!

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

Yes, you have a brain the size of that of a gecko.

That being said... the insurrection was to STOP Biden from being certified as president. What you're proposing is that they attempted to stop Biden, in order to help Biden? I know that kind of illogical logic goes over well in MAGA circles, but to the rest of the sane, non-cult world, it's next-level stupidity.

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Geckogirl's avatar

J6 was an inside job, fed-led to stop the American people from hearing the assertions and evidence of an alleged stolen election during the joint session of Congress. Will Biden pardon J6 committee members who allegedly destroyed evidence? Why would they need a pardon?

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

J6 WAS an inside job!

People like Marge 3-Toes and Lauren BoeBoe-so-dumb worked from the inside, giving tours of escape routes lawmakers might take, etc...

And those of us who dont limit our reading to the cult echo chamber know all about the meetings before J6 with Trump's co-conspirators.

So, yes. J6 was an inside job. The enemy, Trump, was already inside the WH, along with all of his fellow traitors, and they brought this on.

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Merrie Soltis's avatar

I was working from home in 2020, but I had to check in with my boss if I were stepping out. I emailed her that morning and told her "I have to run to the pharmacy and I'm going now because I'm afraid there might be violence later." So, I was safely barricaded back in my house when the rioting started and watched it play out on live TV. The only thing that ever shocked me more was 9/11. But on 9/11, the terrorists were foreign operatives bent on destroying the country. These were my fellow Americans resorting to violence because they had been lied to by their president, their elected officials, and their trusted news sources. It still horrifies me to this day.

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Cameron Sprow's avatar

Jan. 6th was in 2021

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Susan Bagwell's avatar

Stimulating.

Thanks for checking in.

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