But you still need to arrest all the illegal protesters (I don’t mean the ones holding a placard; but people blocking traffic or occupying school property, absolutely), publish all names and shame, fire employees, and expel students.
Of course. Arrest them if they break laws. Fire them if they disrupt business. I’m talking about places that really foster and agree with the mob but are playing cover and optics games.
One of the reasons i pay for The Bulwark is the in depth dive from both presenters and in the comments section. Well reasoned without the normal animus that typically thrives in these types of formats. Today was no exception as they covered the rich kid college hissy fits in detail (my description, i tend to be less sympathetic about those enjoying the fruits of their parents labor)
Anyway, your old buddy EE made the screen today. He was one of three highlighted for bashing Biden's lack of commentary on what is going on at Columbia (and other universities). The point was well founded and easily refuted by those way smarter than me.
Here was one of Andrew Egger's posted quotes from Joe Biden: " “Even in recent days, we’ve seen harassment and calls for violence against Jews. This blatant antisemitism is reprehensible and dangerous—and it has absolutely no place on college campuses or anywhere in our country . . . We must speak out against the alarming surge of antisemitism—in our schools, communities, and online. Silence is complicity.”
The claim he has said "nothing" is simply not true. We could argue he should could do more; i guess. Like what" Sending in the national guard? Seems to me the local police handled it the way is should have been handled. Order them to leave and when they don't arrest them. Now it's up the scholol administration to act.
The differences between trump and Biden's leadership style are always on display, aren't they? On one hand we have calm even-handed demeanor and the other hand ranting, raving and calling for someone's head. I know which one i prefer; 100 times out of 100.
A “posted quote” from Biden (did he even say it?) is not much. I was barely aware of it. Biden on television saying it from the bully pulpit is much better.
Another great post! Calling this out for what it is! There is nothing new under the sun and Satan always overplays his cards AGAIN... but God has the last word and He will "Keep [Israel] as the apple of the eye, hide [them] under the shadow of thy wings." Psalm 17:8
Pretty sure the reason POTUS can't stop the protests is the First Amendment.
To quote Nicholas Grossman: "I know Republicans like running against “the Left,” rather than Dem politicians and policies, but a campaign built on “the people protesting against Dems, shouting how they hate Joe Biden and want him to lose are secretly in charge of Biden and the Dems” seems like a tough sell."
What's gonna happen is a similar thing that happened to the BLM movement, which was focused on police reform: bad actors come in and take things too far, and the failure of the good faith/non-bad actors to denounce or otherwise separate themselves from the bad actors leads to their original goal (for BLM, police reform) ends up hamstrung.
You can see how Palestinians that want peace denounce the violent rhetoric as being harmful to the Palestinian people and cause: that's what these college kids need to recognize, and will likely fail to do.
My take away from Steve’s post was not really Biden focused. That being said, the president needs to walk a thin line concerning Mideast policy to avoid losing votes from his own base. I believe he generally does so.
It's not Biden focused, but to state that Biden has done nothing needs to be put in context that there is little/nothing POTUS can do beyond making a statement. He has made the right statement, in my opinion: that it angers both sides shows that it is correct.
You have to understand: the anti-semites and far left *are not part of the base*. The far left hates Democrats and Joe Biden: they generally vote third-party or not at all, with the possible exception of anti-Trump votes.
The actual base of the Democratic Party are older Black people and suburban women.
I never thought I would be quoting Al Jazeera but this link demonstrates how Biden has undermined Israeli objectives and provided propaganda to fuel hate toward Jews. All of Biden's empty words of condemnation never reach the ears of the haters and the weak-minded, brainwashed students and other Hamas supporters involved in violent demonstrations.
Biden's words would have no effect on them even if he was in the courtyard with a large PA system, 'cause 1) they are fundamentally not part of the Democratic Party base, 2) they hate him, and 3) he's POTUS, not a king.
Israel's problem in the current war is a lack of a long-term plan, or any plan for what happens after the war ends. Biden has done the right thing when it comes to Israel and Palestine: Israel has to deal with Hamas AND has to ensure the Palestinian civilians are taken care of, the latter of which is something that those like ben Gvir emphatically do not want to do.
I have always said it and will continue to do so: criticism of Israel's actions are not inherently anti-Semitic or anti-Israel, and denying that bad behavior and actions take place does no good for Israel. The latter point can apply to any group (such as Palestinians that want peace) as policing bad behavior is necessary to making an effective movement.
Biden undermines Israel and encourages antisemitism by his words. Biden provides ammo for the propaganda battle. Israel has no obligation to a terrorist population that uses its own citizens, who put Hamas in charge, as shields. Israel is obligated to secure its own borders and protect its citizens. Something Biden could and should emulate.
This is an argument for never criticizing Israel, which is bullsh*t.
Half of the population of Gaza are children, and you just called them terrorists. Hamas ≠ Palestinian.
When was the last time there was a vote? Answer: 2006, and Hamas won 74/132 seats. So no, they didn't all "put Hamas in power": there was the one vote, and then Hamas killed off their political enemies and has kept power through brutality and murder.
You are as much an impediment to peace as the pro-Hamas protestors.
Bully post Steve
I agree with divesting from antisemites.
But you still need to arrest all the illegal protesters (I don’t mean the ones holding a placard; but people blocking traffic or occupying school property, absolutely), publish all names and shame, fire employees, and expel students.
Of course. Arrest them if they break laws. Fire them if they disrupt business. I’m talking about places that really foster and agree with the mob but are playing cover and optics games.
One of the reasons i pay for The Bulwark is the in depth dive from both presenters and in the comments section. Well reasoned without the normal animus that typically thrives in these types of formats. Today was no exception as they covered the rich kid college hissy fits in detail (my description, i tend to be less sympathetic about those enjoying the fruits of their parents labor)
Anyway, your old buddy EE made the screen today. He was one of three highlighted for bashing Biden's lack of commentary on what is going on at Columbia (and other universities). The point was well founded and easily refuted by those way smarter than me.
Here was one of Andrew Egger's posted quotes from Joe Biden: " “Even in recent days, we’ve seen harassment and calls for violence against Jews. This blatant antisemitism is reprehensible and dangerous—and it has absolutely no place on college campuses or anywhere in our country . . . We must speak out against the alarming surge of antisemitism—in our schools, communities, and online. Silence is complicity.”
The claim he has said "nothing" is simply not true. We could argue he should could do more; i guess. Like what" Sending in the national guard? Seems to me the local police handled it the way is should have been handled. Order them to leave and when they don't arrest them. Now it's up the scholol administration to act.
The differences between trump and Biden's leadership style are always on display, aren't they? On one hand we have calm even-handed demeanor and the other hand ranting, raving and calling for someone's head. I know which one i prefer; 100 times out of 100.
A “posted quote” from Biden (did he even say it?) is not much. I was barely aware of it. Biden on television saying it from the bully pulpit is much better.
For Zion's sake...may we never be silent
Like I said on my FB share:
Another great post! Calling this out for what it is! There is nothing new under the sun and Satan always overplays his cards AGAIN... but God has the last word and He will "Keep [Israel] as the apple of the eye, hide [them] under the shadow of thy wings." Psalm 17:8
Pretty sure the reason POTUS can't stop the protests is the First Amendment.
To quote Nicholas Grossman: "I know Republicans like running against “the Left,” rather than Dem politicians and policies, but a campaign built on “the people protesting against Dems, shouting how they hate Joe Biden and want him to lose are secretly in charge of Biden and the Dems” seems like a tough sell."
What's gonna happen is a similar thing that happened to the BLM movement, which was focused on police reform: bad actors come in and take things too far, and the failure of the good faith/non-bad actors to denounce or otherwise separate themselves from the bad actors leads to their original goal (for BLM, police reform) ends up hamstrung.
You can see how Palestinians that want peace denounce the violent rhetoric as being harmful to the Palestinian people and cause: that's what these college kids need to recognize, and will likely fail to do.
My take away from Steve’s post was not really Biden focused. That being said, the president needs to walk a thin line concerning Mideast policy to avoid losing votes from his own base. I believe he generally does so.
It's not Biden focused, but to state that Biden has done nothing needs to be put in context that there is little/nothing POTUS can do beyond making a statement. He has made the right statement, in my opinion: that it angers both sides shows that it is correct.
You have to understand: the anti-semites and far left *are not part of the base*. The far left hates Democrats and Joe Biden: they generally vote third-party or not at all, with the possible exception of anti-Trump votes.
The actual base of the Democratic Party are older Black people and suburban women.
I never thought I would be quoting Al Jazeera but this link demonstrates how Biden has undermined Israeli objectives and provided propaganda to fuel hate toward Jews. All of Biden's empty words of condemnation never reach the ears of the haters and the weak-minded, brainwashed students and other Hamas supporters involved in violent demonstrations.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/7/timeline-the-biden-administration-on-gaza-in-its-own-words
Biden's words would have no effect on them even if he was in the courtyard with a large PA system, 'cause 1) they are fundamentally not part of the Democratic Party base, 2) they hate him, and 3) he's POTUS, not a king.
Israel's problem in the current war is a lack of a long-term plan, or any plan for what happens after the war ends. Biden has done the right thing when it comes to Israel and Palestine: Israel has to deal with Hamas AND has to ensure the Palestinian civilians are taken care of, the latter of which is something that those like ben Gvir emphatically do not want to do.
I have always said it and will continue to do so: criticism of Israel's actions are not inherently anti-Semitic or anti-Israel, and denying that bad behavior and actions take place does no good for Israel. The latter point can apply to any group (such as Palestinians that want peace) as policing bad behavior is necessary to making an effective movement.
Biden undermines Israel and encourages antisemitism by his words. Biden provides ammo for the propaganda battle. Israel has no obligation to a terrorist population that uses its own citizens, who put Hamas in charge, as shields. Israel is obligated to secure its own borders and protect its citizens. Something Biden could and should emulate.
This is an argument for never criticizing Israel, which is bullsh*t.
Half of the population of Gaza are children, and you just called them terrorists. Hamas ≠ Palestinian.
When was the last time there was a vote? Answer: 2006, and Hamas won 74/132 seats. So no, they didn't all "put Hamas in power": there was the one vote, and then Hamas killed off their political enemies and has kept power through brutality and murder.
You are as much an impediment to peace as the pro-Hamas protestors.