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Jay Berman's avatar

Guess NATO waiting to see which off ramp Tsar Putin will take. All the offered ramps point toward continued destruction for Ukraine. The unwritten deal is for Putin to use conventional war tools confined to Ukraine borders. Narrow war and time in exchange for some of Ukraine. Hope western democracies use Ukraine bravery for good purpose. War is obscene. It happens when you are prepared and when you are not prepared. Rather be prepared and hope that war does not occur at our doorstep.

SGman's avatar

The desire for a Tsar/king/autocrat/strongman/etc... is strong in many countries, including the USA (see: Trump). It's probably an ingrained animal instinct, even if those systems are inherently unstable.

Lawrence Penner's avatar

Seeing the caption of your latest piece got me thinking. I wonder how many citizens of the USA want a regime change here verses how many Russian citizens want a regime change in Russia. Just in plain numbers I would say that there would be more Americans want a regime change here than Russians that want a regime change there. However the population is much larger so that comparison is not really fair. More validity should be placed on the percentage of the population of each country that wants to see regime change in their country. I still think that more want Biden gone than Putin gone but it would be much closer.

SGman's avatar

The population of the USA is about 3x that of Russia. If you're going to compare, then you have to adjust and use percentage rather than raw numbers.

"Regime change" can occur every 2 years, if you consider control of Congress. And of course, point out how the desire for "regime change" in 2020 led to Trump's and the GOP's loss.

Lawrence Penner's avatar

All valid points but in today's Ukrainian invasion context, regime change is not about elections and my comments were not about elections.

SGman's avatar

Sooooooo you want to overthrow the US government?

Lawrence Penner's avatar

Interesting comment. Does regime change mean the overthrow of the government? Although a regime change can mean overthrowing the entire government it could also mean removing the leader and having them replaced by a different leader. That is my understanding what Joe Biden has been publicly advocating for the last week. That leader replacement regime change method is what the Democrats were trying to do through the last 1/2 of the Trump administration. Right? Personally I don't think it would be wise to overthrow the entire US government because of the chaos that would result. I am in favor or replacing the leadership of the present government as he is doing considerable harm to the country and America's position in the world order.

Scott C.'s avatar

Seems to me that he is saying he wants to destroy the US form of government. He wants Russia.