I agree with Merrie that there was no plan to actually force Joe Biden from the race. But I do think there was careful coordination and crisis management dealing with the suspiciously uniform responses. I think this was a managed plan to "get ahead" of the age issue and claims of mental decline. The timing is too perfect. We'll have our July 4th, and mention of Biden leaving the race will dry up like a puddle after a passing thunderstorm on a hot Atlanta day. They've had their crisis and then it will be time to move on. Biden will show up again, vigorous, between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m., with notes and teleprompter, giving sharp-as-a-tack stump speeches. Talk of his mental decline will be relegated to "cheapfakes" and propaganda once again. "It was just a bad night" and "he had a cold" will bubble back up, as Joe's family urges him to remain in the race to defeat Trump. All very well coordinated. Even rehearsed. Biden will not leave the race. It's not even really seriously considered. But it does give the tin-foil-hat Republican crowd something to occupy their headspace.
I obviously have no inside information as to what backroom conversations are happening, nor what the Bidens are thinking. However, my response to this quote (from Merrie):
>As of today, it’s not looking good. Biden is back on the campaign trail. Former President (and potential First First Husband) Barack Obama is publicly declaring that everyone has bad debates. Why, he did against Romney and came back to win! So will Joe. Jill Biden isn’t looking into senior care facilities. She’s donned a dress with “VOTE” printed out in large letters all over it.
My response is: that messaging and those outward activities are exactly what they'd be doing at this point--even if the ultimate decision is to drop out. It'll be "everything's fine" right up until the moment of the announcement.
I'd say the amount of well-known, on-the-record Dems who have said that Biden needs to think about dropping out is a healthy sign for the party (as much as it could be, given the circumstances)--and how these things "should" work. It's clear this wasn't planned or coordinated. It makes me sick, too, though.
I remember 2016 very `well. I liked Rubio, Cruz and Jeb Bush. Soon, I was hoping that Jim Webb would get the democrat nomination so there would someone I could vote for.
Are you sure Disney's head isn't in a jar somewhere Merrie?
It's what they do, it's what they've done for far too long and no one holds them accountable: Make shit up. One crazy comment after another and the right biosphere explodes and word travels across the globe. Sadly the believers swallow it; over and over again. And then when it doesn't happen, no one, NO ONE cares.
Sometimes the best analysis are the shortest and you nailed it here: "People are morons."
I Know Who The Democrats Need To Replace Biden With. The Problem Is The Far Left Fringe Of The Democrat Party Hates Them And Would Storm Off To The Green Party. I'm Talking About, Either, Joe Manchin Or Kyrstin Sinema. Manchin And Sinema Are, Both, Recognized Democrat Party Centrists. That's Why The Left Wing Of The Democrat Party Forced Both Of Them Into Retirement. Manchin Or Sinema Would Have To Tell The Far Left Wing Of The Democrat Party To Pack Their Bags And Go To The Green Party And, Then Proceed To Overhaul And Politically Realign The Party. In Other Words, Move The Democrat Party To The Political Center And Reach Out To The Twenty To Thirty Percent Of Republicans Who Don't Like Donald Trump And Are Planning On Voting Third Party Or Staying Home In November. I'm Talking About The Nicki Haley Republicans. A Joe Manchin Or Kyrstin Sinema Could Bring The Nicki Haley Republicans And The Political Independents On Board In A Heartbeat. However, That Would Mean That Manchin Or Sinema Would Have To Rewrite The Democrat Party Platform And Dump A Lot Of The Far Left Positions Of The Party. This Would, Of Course, Prompt The Far Left Wing Of The Democrat Party To Storm Off To RFK Junior Or The Green Party. However, They Would Get More Anti-Trump Republicans And Political Independents Back, As A Tradeoff.
I'm going to preface this by saying it is not meant as a personal attack.
That is about the dumbest idea I can think of at the moment. Ditch the party base for the scraps of the republican party who won't vote for their nominee! What does that solve--beyond ensuring that Trump wins the election?
On a slightly personal note: What Is With The Odd Capitalization? Are you a bot??
I agree with Merrie that there was no plan to actually force Joe Biden from the race. But I do think there was careful coordination and crisis management dealing with the suspiciously uniform responses. I think this was a managed plan to "get ahead" of the age issue and claims of mental decline. The timing is too perfect. We'll have our July 4th, and mention of Biden leaving the race will dry up like a puddle after a passing thunderstorm on a hot Atlanta day. They've had their crisis and then it will be time to move on. Biden will show up again, vigorous, between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m., with notes and teleprompter, giving sharp-as-a-tack stump speeches. Talk of his mental decline will be relegated to "cheapfakes" and propaganda once again. "It was just a bad night" and "he had a cold" will bubble back up, as Joe's family urges him to remain in the race to defeat Trump. All very well coordinated. Even rehearsed. Biden will not leave the race. It's not even really seriously considered. But it does give the tin-foil-hat Republican crowd something to occupy their headspace.
I obviously have no inside information as to what backroom conversations are happening, nor what the Bidens are thinking. However, my response to this quote (from Merrie):
>As of today, it’s not looking good. Biden is back on the campaign trail. Former President (and potential First First Husband) Barack Obama is publicly declaring that everyone has bad debates. Why, he did against Romney and came back to win! So will Joe. Jill Biden isn’t looking into senior care facilities. She’s donned a dress with “VOTE” printed out in large letters all over it.
My response is: that messaging and those outward activities are exactly what they'd be doing at this point--even if the ultimate decision is to drop out. It'll be "everything's fine" right up until the moment of the announcement.
I'd say the amount of well-known, on-the-record Dems who have said that Biden needs to think about dropping out is a healthy sign for the party (as much as it could be, given the circumstances)--and how these things "should" work. It's clear this wasn't planned or coordinated. It makes me sick, too, though.
I remember 2016 very `well. I liked Rubio, Cruz and Jeb Bush. Soon, I was hoping that Jim Webb would get the democrat nomination so there would someone I could vote for.
Are you sure Disney's head isn't in a jar somewhere Merrie?
It's what they do, it's what they've done for far too long and no one holds them accountable: Make shit up. One crazy comment after another and the right biosphere explodes and word travels across the globe. Sadly the believers swallow it; over and over again. And then when it doesn't happen, no one, NO ONE cares.
Sometimes the best analysis are the shortest and you nailed it here: "People are morons."
Hey, they COULD have Uncle Walt's head in a jar somewhere! Maybe he's the one calling all the shots over there at Disney!
Nah. He would be smarter than those who are.
I Know Who The Democrats Need To Replace Biden With. The Problem Is The Far Left Fringe Of The Democrat Party Hates Them And Would Storm Off To The Green Party. I'm Talking About, Either, Joe Manchin Or Kyrstin Sinema. Manchin And Sinema Are, Both, Recognized Democrat Party Centrists. That's Why The Left Wing Of The Democrat Party Forced Both Of Them Into Retirement. Manchin Or Sinema Would Have To Tell The Far Left Wing Of The Democrat Party To Pack Their Bags And Go To The Green Party And, Then Proceed To Overhaul And Politically Realign The Party. In Other Words, Move The Democrat Party To The Political Center And Reach Out To The Twenty To Thirty Percent Of Republicans Who Don't Like Donald Trump And Are Planning On Voting Third Party Or Staying Home In November. I'm Talking About The Nicki Haley Republicans. A Joe Manchin Or Kyrstin Sinema Could Bring The Nicki Haley Republicans And The Political Independents On Board In A Heartbeat. However, That Would Mean That Manchin Or Sinema Would Have To Rewrite The Democrat Party Platform And Dump A Lot Of The Far Left Positions Of The Party. This Would, Of Course, Prompt The Far Left Wing Of The Democrat Party To Storm Off To RFK Junior Or The Green Party. However, They Would Get More Anti-Trump Republicans And Political Independents Back, As A Tradeoff.
I'm going to preface this by saying it is not meant as a personal attack.
That is about the dumbest idea I can think of at the moment. Ditch the party base for the scraps of the republican party who won't vote for their nominee! What does that solve--beyond ensuring that Trump wins the election?
On a slightly personal note: What Is With The Odd Capitalization? Are you a bot??