More BS. In Georgia, counties determine the number of precincts. Most of the counties shown shaded on the Twitter map have minority majorities. Georgia allows mail-in ballots and 18 days of early voting. My county has about 50,000 residents. 77% white, 14% Hispanic, 3% Black and a few Asians. We have one voting precinct. The longest drive to the polling location is about 15 miles from any place in the county. Georgia has 159 counties. Most are tiny.
I have stood in the voting line with Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and the former Governor of Georgia. The line moves quickly. Voter codes are scanned from voter IDs. One or two signatures are required, and you vote. Everyone is allowed to vote. There are plenty of voting machines and the maximum wait is about 15 minutes on election day, probably less on early voting days. The long lines and computer screwups and irregularities cited by progressive propagandists are in the more urban areas controlled by minority officials. Incompetence, dishonesty and spending money on the wrong priorities are why they can't do it right. Or maybe they are doing that way on purpose so they can better predict how many votes they have to manufacture to get the desired result.
Correct. I never heard of TheValuesVoter before now. My take on the Tweets is that whoever did the tweeting believes that voting integrity legislation in Georgia is a subterfuge to deny minorities voting rights. If I missed the point, I'm open to enlightenment.
You did miss the point, as he was quite explicit: the point of current legislation is to discourage even a few percentage points of people from voting by making voting more difficult.
There's a good reply thread in there about how some precinct changes have led to better outcomes in some counties: that does not change that many of these post-2020 pieces of legislation across the country (though the tweet thread is uses Georgia as an example) are designed to discourage some voters - and that not many have to be discouraged in order to have changed the outcome of the 2020 election.
You should read more of his stuff: he's a small-c conservative.
Thanks. I probably should have said "discourage" rather than "deny". I fail to see any provision that would discourage anyone who wants to vote. I like the idea of mobile polling stations which might allow better use of manpower by election officials. If they are not approved by the Governor, I would be disappointed, but it's not the only option. The same voting opportunity could be achieved by setting up temporary voting locations (churches, libraries, etc.) in various neighborhoods during the early voting period. That might be a better use of funds than purchasing and specially equipping buses.
I would probably advocate doing away with drop boxes entirely except in locations monitored similarly to polling stations. Limitations on drop boxes might discourage a few unenthusiastic voters but they have other options which are not burdensome. Limiting drop boxes discourages Illegal vote harvesting that might cancel out numerous legitimate votes. As noted in your Twitter link, it does not take many votes to swing a close election and that's the real purpose of voting integrity legislation.
Let's keep in mind that while the thread is about GA, that a lot of these "voting integrity" changes are being made in GOP-held states throughout the US - with little/no evidence that they are needed or relevant.
I don't get the ire against drop-boxes: those are just mail-in ballots being deposited rather than mailed.
What exactly is "illegal ballot harvesting"? The only example I've seen of outright illegal ballot actions involved some GOP operatives gathering unfilled/unsealed ballots and committing ballot fraud. If someone gathers sealed/signed ballots and deposits them for someone else - why is that a problem, and why should it be illegal?
It seems to me that those claiming voter suppression should be able to put forth several hundred witnesses who can produce a believable story of being denied a vote. If they can't, it's all BS.
https://twitter.com/TheValuesVoter/status/1480965234185670656
More BS. In Georgia, counties determine the number of precincts. Most of the counties shown shaded on the Twitter map have minority majorities. Georgia allows mail-in ballots and 18 days of early voting. My county has about 50,000 residents. 77% white, 14% Hispanic, 3% Black and a few Asians. We have one voting precinct. The longest drive to the polling location is about 15 miles from any place in the county. Georgia has 159 counties. Most are tiny.
I have stood in the voting line with Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and the former Governor of Georgia. The line moves quickly. Voter codes are scanned from voter IDs. One or two signatures are required, and you vote. Everyone is allowed to vote. There are plenty of voting machines and the maximum wait is about 15 minutes on election day, probably less on early voting days. The long lines and computer screwups and irregularities cited by progressive propagandists are in the more urban areas controlled by minority officials. Incompetence, dishonesty and spending money on the wrong priorities are why they can't do it right. Or maybe they are doing that way on purpose so they can better predict how many votes they have to manufacture to get the desired result.
You obviously don't know TheValuesVoter if you think he's a progressive. Nor did you understand his point.
Correct. I never heard of TheValuesVoter before now. My take on the Tweets is that whoever did the tweeting believes that voting integrity legislation in Georgia is a subterfuge to deny minorities voting rights. If I missed the point, I'm open to enlightenment.
You did miss the point, as he was quite explicit: the point of current legislation is to discourage even a few percentage points of people from voting by making voting more difficult.
There's a good reply thread in there about how some precinct changes have led to better outcomes in some counties: that does not change that many of these post-2020 pieces of legislation across the country (though the tweet thread is uses Georgia as an example) are designed to discourage some voters - and that not many have to be discouraged in order to have changed the outcome of the 2020 election.
You should read more of his stuff: he's a small-c conservative.
Thanks. I probably should have said "discourage" rather than "deny". I fail to see any provision that would discourage anyone who wants to vote. I like the idea of mobile polling stations which might allow better use of manpower by election officials. If they are not approved by the Governor, I would be disappointed, but it's not the only option. The same voting opportunity could be achieved by setting up temporary voting locations (churches, libraries, etc.) in various neighborhoods during the early voting period. That might be a better use of funds than purchasing and specially equipping buses.
I would probably advocate doing away with drop boxes entirely except in locations monitored similarly to polling stations. Limitations on drop boxes might discourage a few unenthusiastic voters but they have other options which are not burdensome. Limiting drop boxes discourages Illegal vote harvesting that might cancel out numerous legitimate votes. As noted in your Twitter link, it does not take many votes to swing a close election and that's the real purpose of voting integrity legislation.
Let's keep in mind that while the thread is about GA, that a lot of these "voting integrity" changes are being made in GOP-held states throughout the US - with little/no evidence that they are needed or relevant.
I don't get the ire against drop-boxes: those are just mail-in ballots being deposited rather than mailed.
What exactly is "illegal ballot harvesting"? The only example I've seen of outright illegal ballot actions involved some GOP operatives gathering unfilled/unsealed ballots and committing ballot fraud. If someone gathers sealed/signed ballots and deposits them for someone else - why is that a problem, and why should it be illegal?
It seems to me that those claiming voter suppression should be able to put forth several hundred witnesses who can produce a believable story of being denied a vote. If they can't, it's all BS.