I don't know anyone "celebrating" yesterday's election results David. At best, perhaps a sigh of relief. Even that from my vantage point would be too strong an emotion. I look across the country and see too many less than stellar candidates. I see people voting for the wrong reasons; not for what a candidate can do, but for fear of what the other guy (gender neutral) may do.
I know there's always been negative campaigns, but with each election cycle it gets worse. Wouldn't it be refreshing to see all crap-spewing stop. What if both sides were held liable for ads they run. And i'm not just talking about the candidates, the worst are the dark money groups who can and do say things with no fear of reprisal.
Free speech shouldn't be free when it is libelous. Irrespective of the outcomes, i suspect most of us are hungry for solid candidates with solid platforms. I don't want democrats helping republicans pick weak or crazy people to run against. I don't want anyone shaping safe districts where they reconfigure the voting population to marginalize voters, or worse yet, denying them the right to vote.
Personally, once this election is over, i would love to see a bipartisan group come together and try and get their head around common sense legislation that stops the lies (by both sides) and forces them to focus on their goals. I know, no chance; but why not?
This election has shown us ugly, why not try and find the best candidates with better ideas?
Michigan happened because of abortion. If dobbs never happened this state would look a whole lot different right now. So much for Michigan being a right to work state lol.
Bummer. Minimal black vote changes. Not nearly as much drift toward Republicans by Hispanics as predicted. Youngsters actually showing up to vote because of Dobbs. Almost no concern about the economy by the large number of people receiving free stuff such. Half of the voters hate Trump.
It matters not that Trump may have been correct in many of his policies. People hate him and he has poisoned the Republican party. The party can shed itself of Trump, but it cannot transform itself enough to overcome the other factors that cause citizens to vote democrat without losing its identity. I watch Fox News a lot and, on election day, they flashed the results of their opinion research that showed the public increasingly accepting the nanny state. 65% think the government should provide healthcare. About 50% approve of student loan forgiveness. About 55% prefer stricter gun laws. The media. Over 60% think abortion rights should be federally guaranteed. A number of other opinions were at odds with Republican positions.
It looks as if the Republican party is doomed by the influence of the education system, the media, pop culture and 15 or 20 percent of the population being foreign born. The nanny state and socialism will soon be our form of government.
"However much voters hate inflation, they hate crazy more." Really? No, it appears they LOVE crazy, as the democrats performance in this midterm attests. Crazy held us all hostage for the last 2 years in the form of inflation, educational indoctrination, wokeism, open borders, and military weakness. If voters had even a small amount of willingness to vote in their self-interest, not one Democrat would have won.
I was a Republican my entire life, voted straight Republican until 2016. The acceptance of lies, the cognitive dissonance, and the willingness to trample all over democracy as long as it enabled them to carry out their agenda freaked me right out, especially when I saw it happening to people I used respect. I still have trouble bringing myself to vote Democrat, but I've done it when the Republican alternative is nuts.
All the things you listed that you don't like about the Democrats aren't crazy. They're just things you don't like. They won't destroy the country. Sure, they might change it but that's not the end of the world. What many Republicans are willing to say, do and overlook in order to "preserve American values" scares me much more.
The scariest thing is that a lot of it comes from people who should know better. People I grew up around who used to tell me to trust God in everything because he was in control started freaking out that the country was going in a direction they didn't like. They started justifying so much that, according to what they said they believed, shouldn't have been acceptable. They'd say blatantly contradictory things in order to promote their candidate and not even notice they were contradictory.
On the other hand, Democrats are still Democrats. I don't like a lot of their platform. I hate some of it. What I know is that they are not the crazy ones at the moment.
Saw an interesting data-point in the Bulwark today showing the correlation between excess COVID deaths (post-vaccine availability) hitting Republican voters 80% harder than Democrats. Without vaccine denial, there could have been enough living voters to push a number of losing Republican candidates into the win column.
I don't know anyone "celebrating" yesterday's election results David. At best, perhaps a sigh of relief. Even that from my vantage point would be too strong an emotion. I look across the country and see too many less than stellar candidates. I see people voting for the wrong reasons; not for what a candidate can do, but for fear of what the other guy (gender neutral) may do.
I know there's always been negative campaigns, but with each election cycle it gets worse. Wouldn't it be refreshing to see all crap-spewing stop. What if both sides were held liable for ads they run. And i'm not just talking about the candidates, the worst are the dark money groups who can and do say things with no fear of reprisal.
Free speech shouldn't be free when it is libelous. Irrespective of the outcomes, i suspect most of us are hungry for solid candidates with solid platforms. I don't want democrats helping republicans pick weak or crazy people to run against. I don't want anyone shaping safe districts where they reconfigure the voting population to marginalize voters, or worse yet, denying them the right to vote.
Personally, once this election is over, i would love to see a bipartisan group come together and try and get their head around common sense legislation that stops the lies (by both sides) and forces them to focus on their goals. I know, no chance; but why not?
This election has shown us ugly, why not try and find the best candidates with better ideas?
Michigan happened because of abortion. If dobbs never happened this state would look a whole lot different right now. So much for Michigan being a right to work state lol.
Bummer. Minimal black vote changes. Not nearly as much drift toward Republicans by Hispanics as predicted. Youngsters actually showing up to vote because of Dobbs. Almost no concern about the economy by the large number of people receiving free stuff such. Half of the voters hate Trump.
It matters not that Trump may have been correct in many of his policies. People hate him and he has poisoned the Republican party. The party can shed itself of Trump, but it cannot transform itself enough to overcome the other factors that cause citizens to vote democrat without losing its identity. I watch Fox News a lot and, on election day, they flashed the results of their opinion research that showed the public increasingly accepting the nanny state. 65% think the government should provide healthcare. About 50% approve of student loan forgiveness. About 55% prefer stricter gun laws. The media. Over 60% think abortion rights should be federally guaranteed. A number of other opinions were at odds with Republican positions.
It looks as if the Republican party is doomed by the influence of the education system, the media, pop culture and 15 or 20 percent of the population being foreign born. The nanny state and socialism will soon be our form of government.
What a glorious day that will be.
"However much voters hate inflation, they hate crazy more." Really? No, it appears they LOVE crazy, as the democrats performance in this midterm attests. Crazy held us all hostage for the last 2 years in the form of inflation, educational indoctrination, wokeism, open borders, and military weakness. If voters had even a small amount of willingness to vote in their self-interest, not one Democrat would have won.
I was a Republican my entire life, voted straight Republican until 2016. The acceptance of lies, the cognitive dissonance, and the willingness to trample all over democracy as long as it enabled them to carry out their agenda freaked me right out, especially when I saw it happening to people I used respect. I still have trouble bringing myself to vote Democrat, but I've done it when the Republican alternative is nuts.
All the things you listed that you don't like about the Democrats aren't crazy. They're just things you don't like. They won't destroy the country. Sure, they might change it but that's not the end of the world. What many Republicans are willing to say, do and overlook in order to "preserve American values" scares me much more.
The scariest thing is that a lot of it comes from people who should know better. People I grew up around who used to tell me to trust God in everything because he was in control started freaking out that the country was going in a direction they didn't like. They started justifying so much that, according to what they said they believed, shouldn't have been acceptable. They'd say blatantly contradictory things in order to promote their candidate and not even notice they were contradictory.
On the other hand, Democrats are still Democrats. I don't like a lot of their platform. I hate some of it. What I know is that they are not the crazy ones at the moment.
The amount of lies you have to tell yourself to believe that is mind boggling.
Saw an interesting data-point in the Bulwark today showing the correlation between excess COVID deaths (post-vaccine availability) hitting Republican voters 80% harder than Democrats. Without vaccine denial, there could have been enough living voters to push a number of losing Republican candidates into the win column.