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Bill Pearson's avatar

The irony of the statute was a point well made David. That said, the bigger issue isn't the idol itself, but the fact the new republican has reached the zenith of it's own moral decay and rot. If it seems harsh to say that, sorry, but when human beings have no capacity for honesty or accountability, there is nothing left to build your party on or around.

Lies have become their beacon of hope. Pretending Brian Sicknick wasn't murdered at the attack on the Capital January 6 is shameless; nearly 150 other officers were injured. Acting as if the assault wasn't real is their only out. Continuing the fabrication the election was "stolen" is apparently better than admitting you/trump were/are losers.

trump has spent his entire life as a con man. Is it any surprise the charade continues? What is frightening is seemingly smart people have fallen prey to his bullshit and are willing to sell their soul to support him. Christians' indeed.

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HCI's avatar

When I saw that statue, I admit hoping that Moses came down from heaven, grabbed the golden image of Trump, and threw it into the fire. Just as the Old Testament prophet did with the golden calf the Israelites were worshipping when he came down from Sinai. Heavenly wishes aside, I don't know what is going to shake these folks on the right from their cultish worship of Trump. I don't want the Democrats to win at all, as they are collectively speaking too far to the left to my comfort. Yet, the cult of personality surrounding Trump cannot continue in the GOP, if the latter is to be the political vehicle for the rebuilding and revitalization of the conservative movement. Trump's abysmal behavior during his presidency and the continued defense of it even to today, is sapping the GOP and the conservative movement of the necessary political capital to fight against the mostly left of center policies that are being advocated by Biden and the Democrats. And not just political capital is being wasted, but intellectual credibility as well.

David, you also bring up some good historical tidbits regarding the 1912 presidential election. The consequential effects of that election cannot be ignored, especially given the talk floated around of Trump possibly forming a new party. Teddy Roosevelt managed to get 88 electoral votes, leaving President Taft with only 8(Utah and Vermont being the only states he carried). But this allowed Woodrow Wilson to win 435 electoral votes, but winning less than 42 percent of the popular vote. If you combine the popular vote totals for Roosevelt and Taft, it would've topped 50 percent. But more importantly, 18 states were decided by less than 7 percentage points. And Wilson won 14 of those states. Had the GOP not split during this election, Taft would've likely won re-election, and Woodrow Wilson would've been relegated to having a more obscure place in history. And as us conservatives know all too well, the Wilson presidency was a sorry one. That man was virulently racist, even by the standards of the early 20th century. Wilson's contempt for the Constitution's separation of powers is well known. I remember hearing Jonah Goldberg once saying that Wilson was probably the closest thing the US had to a fascist President.

One of the Ten Commandments states "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image". Republicans, Trumpists, and others on the political right would do themselves, and the country a huge favor if they would start adhering to that commandment.

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LETECIA's avatar

While there are several issues in the Democratic party that are not in sync with the beliefs of most conservatives, after reading the 1956 Republican Party platform, it seems to me that the Democratic Party is far more centrist than what we are lead to believe and the GOP has gone far, far right of center.

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David Thornton's avatar

The 1912 election might be worth looking at in detail for a future piece. I didn’t look at it that closely.

Jonah was probably right. I remember reading how Wilson had a secret network of informers and arrested political prisoners during WWI.

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

Come on man! No one worships Trump. Quite a few of us like his policies despite being aware of his personality deficiencies. The statue is nothing more than a way of trolling the media and never-Trumps who refuse to recognize that his actions on the issues are what people like about him. I will close with my congratulations to you for inspiring several pages of comments.

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SGman's avatar

Doesn't "the ends justify the means" run counter to conservative principles?

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

What "means" are you referring to? The impeachments were a sham. No serious issues were proven.

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SGman's avatar

"Quite a few of us like his policies despite being aware of his personality deficiencies."

Trump was a means to an end for many in the GOP.

What did impeachment have to do with that point?

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

So you are saying that there's nothing wrong with the means Trump employed it's just his personality that makes everything he accomplished and his America first policy unjustified.

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SGman's avatar

Oh, I've plenty wrong with his means as well: that's not the point, is it? The question is whether if his personality deficiencies and the effects those deficiencies have/had on the public discourse were worth the ends - in this case, the policies you prefer and like.

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Curtis Stinespring's avatar

The media and never-Trumps have set the tone of public discourse. They attacked before inauguration and never stopped. Joke about Russians having Hillary's emails. Uproar over Sharpy altered weather map that was obviously a joke. The Charlottesville hoax. Firing an FBI director who obviously deserved it. Two years of the Russian hoax. The phoney Ukraine scandal. All of the other BS plus the fact that Trump fought back. The media made sure that every sensitive soul should know their feelings were hurt even when it required spreading disinformation and lies.

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