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Looking forward to seeing who among the additional 18 indicted end up flipping for the State and pleads down to a lesser charge.

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Aug 15, 2023Liked by David Thornton

Should "Well, Brad Raffensperger did get elected again." refer to Brian Kemp, per the previous quote about re-election?

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It could apply to both. They were both re-elected despite incurring the wrath of Trumpworld.

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Also true, just saying from the context the "he" appeared to be Kemp.

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It's Fulton County. The jury pool is unlikely to produce a juror who will not automatically vote to convict Mr. Trump. Delays and appeals for the next several years will keep the media outlets profitable.

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Let's turn that around: should we not allow any Trump voters from being in his case juries because they'd automatically vote to NOT convict Mr. Trump? Kinda sounds like a terrible way to run a justice system where only a particular political leaning can be involved in trials related to politics - or do you only mean that should apply when the accused is a GOP political entity?

There's a reason why voir dire exists: Mr. Trump's lawyers will be part of the jury selection process in all cases. Jurors take their duties seriously, and I imagine there will be a large number of alternate jurors to account for any misconduct on the part of jurors.

Quit the baseless aspersions.

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Have you ever been called for jury duty in Fulton County. I have. I told my boss where I would be. He said it would not be a problem, engineers are always rejected as jurors. I was in the office before 3:00 p.m.

I have no problem with a cross-section of America making up a jury. That is not what will happen in Atlanta. Mr. Trump's lawyers will be limited in rejecting jurors. So will the prosecution but their rejections will certainly be easier choices. If jury pools are all totally unbiased, why do prosecutors and defense attorneys so often ask for changes in venue? I do not believe for one second that most jurors are impartial. Prosecutors don't either.

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Venue changes happen in local/county-level cases, which are reasonable because moving from one county to another allows for a jury pool that is less connected to the case at hand: that's not reasonable in cases that apply to the State/Federal level, so we just do our best to ensure that the selected jurors are capable of judging the evidence and defense on the merits.

I'll wager that there are many non-voters in Fulton County, and thus there will be little issue finding jurors that don't care about Trump one way or the other.

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Jury pools for Georgia courts are drawn from a master list (maintained by the Secretary of State) of holders of state issued drivers licenses and personal ID cards. The Fulton County prosecution of Trump is a county-level case. All, some or none may be registered to vote. Venue changes are an effort to reduce bias and will not happen when the Fulton DA is out to get Trump, no matter what it takes. She, like Alvin Bragg, does not want an impartial jury. She wants jurors that voted for her. She knows they are biased. It's naive to think otherwise.

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Erick Erickson wrote that since several of the defendants were federal employees at the time of the alleged crimes, they can request removal to federal courts. I’m not sure how that works since it’s a state charge that isn’t available in federal law.

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Aug 15, 2023·edited Aug 15, 2023

"Federal law provides that a prosecution begun in a state court may, within 30 days, be “removed” to federal court if it relates to “any act” by “any officer of the United States” taken “under color of such office.”" (From https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/trump-georgia-indictment-motion-remove/675019/)

They'd have to show that those acts were part of being an officer of the USA, which I'd think is unlikely. It's not impossible: just not likely.

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It's a state-level case (for violating state law) that was filed in the capital, which is inside Fulton County.

The Fulton DA is out to enforce the law. Trump and his allies have yet to defend themselves on the merits: if they can defend themselves, they should focus on doing so.

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The trial could be moved to any circuit court. If there is no bias, why couldn't the trial be moved to Rome? People there elected MTG but surely, they are just as unbiased and levelheaded as those that elected Hank Johnson. You know there is jury bias, and you are all for it if it gets Trump.

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